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Some of my friends are promoting milk (and coffee) on Here's another "opinion" (with argument and references):

Milk: A Cruel and Unhealthy Product

Posted Mon, Jan 5 2009 11:12 by Ahmad Ajlouny
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Stefan Lindblad wrote re: Milk and
on Mon, Jan 5 2009 7:02

Well there is always soy milk, but then we have the devastated forest´s n parts of the world, because of soya beans? Maybe  I got it wrong ;-) Aaaanyway. No cow have as up to this date, me knowing, been dead because of their milk production. Cows milk comes naturally. And they feel preetty bad if their milk isnt consumed.

Ahmad Ajlouny wrote re: Milk and
on Mon, Jan 5 2009 11:13

You love cow milk that you jumped to the last title regarding its alternative and left the entire article :)

Note that "Cruel" preceded "Unhealthy" in the title, the first subtitle is "Cows Suffer on Dairy Farms" and the second subtitle is "Mastitis" – "Painful inflammation of the mammary glands, or mastitis, is common among cows raised for their milk and is one of dairy farms’ most frequently cited reasons for sending cows to slaughter…"

       [Stefan: Cows milk comes naturally. And they feel preetty bad if their milk isnt consumed.]

But they will feel even worse if they are treated like unnatural milk-producing machines and are genetically manipulated and pumped full of antibiotics and hormones, and their calves are taken away from them.

       Quoted from the article:

"Some spend their entire lives standing on concrete floors; others are confined to massive, crowded lots, where they are forced to live amid their own waste…"

Between you and me: I love cow milk too.

bob wrote re: Milk and
on Tue, Jan 6 2009 8:41

Hi Stefan, et el,

Cow milk will hurt you in the long run. Two  much fat and protein. Processed soy milk becomes toxic during process. A glass of rice milk with a little no fat half and half added turns into a better than cow milk drink. Thick creamy and no fat. Tastes just like the old fashioned thick cow milk in the bottle and it's actually healthy for you.

This is the first time I am taking a good look at this site. Very cool.


Ahmad Ajlouny wrote re: Milk and
on Sat, Jan 10 2009 3:11

Thanks Stefan and Bob,

The article also suggests other dairy-product alternatives such as almond, rice and oat.

Another article: What's best? Soy milk, cow's milk, raw milk and fermented milk (kefir)

Welcome to, Bob.

bob wrote re: Milk and
on Sat, Jan 10 2009 8:20

Hi Ahmad,

Thanks. Great to be in a place loaded with talent.

I have always used the old newsgroup thing ( for many years) and first took a look at this site when it was launched. I went back to the old newsgroup for ease of use and right to the point info.

And now that this has grown it is very cool place to see so much more than just text.


Ahmad Ajlouny wrote re: Milk and
on Wed, Mar 25 2009 8:37
Sonny Leon wrote re: Milk and
on Wed, May 6 2009 2:21

@ Bob & Stefan

My best friend's wife happened to share your views as well with regards to milk and other concerns as well. She advocates holistic well-being ang healthier living in her Multiply website. Check it out here:

Ahmad Ajlouny wrote re: Milk and
on Mon, May 11 2009 9:19

Thanks for the link, Sonny :)

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