Hi All,
I'm a graphic designer by my hobby. I'm using corel draw from it's 4th version. Recently I decided to purchase Corel Draw X5. So I download the trial from internet.
But, its disappointed me. When I print text/line art from X5, its prints sharp dotted lines. And the solids are not perfect solid. I opened some files from X4, and same result. But when I create a file in X5 and save it to X4, then print it from X4, its perfect. I'm using a HP LajerJet 5000 & Samsung ML1610 Printer.
What is wrong with Corel X5? or the Color setting?
my setting is :
RaviR said:What is wrong with Corel X5? or the Color setting?
The problem is that we assumed our users know a difference between GDI and PostScript printing and difference between RGB and CMYK, which is not a case on much grander scale then we ever anticipated. We are working on making these things more straightforward at the same time ensuring we are not breaking color managed workflows.
Gennady
Hi Gennady, Thanks for your kind attention. As per your way, after enable "Preserve pure black" option I'm able to get proper black lines.
But now tell me one thing, when I work on a design which will be print on a CMYK offset machine, which color setting will you prefer? Can you please show me in details the color setting for CMYK working (we use a sheet-feed CMYK Hidelburg machine for multicolor printing).
Thanks in advance.
And sorry for my bad english. R Ravi
Hi Ravi,
As soon as you print to your offset press via PostScript - either through RIP or directly via PostScript driver - using X5 default settings will do a job. Make sure you have "Native" selected in "Output colors as:" control on Color tab of Print dialog ( this is our default, you would not need to touch it unless it has been changed before ). Our default CM settings ensure that document is in CMYK primary color mode therefore the default color palettes you will see is CMYK which will help you to stick to CMYK-only colors. Even if RGB colors are still present in the document this should not be a problem as soon as you keep output to "Native" mode - the RGB numbers will be written intact into the PostScript stream and then converted to CMYK by the RIP/driver using rules that ensure RGB 0 0 0 converts to CMYK 0 0 0 100.
If your RIP/driver is set up differently ( for example it is using CM for RGB to CMYK conversion ) or you print through print shop that only accepts CMYK content - you would need to ensure that you select "CMYK" as output mode in Print dialog and ideally there is no RGB, especially RGB 0 0 0 black, colors in the documents, if there are "Preserve pure black" option has to be activated, otherwise RGB 0 0 0 will not be converted by Draw to CMYK 0 0 0 100 at print time.
Hope this helps.
Hi Gennady,
You are awesome, thanks for your quick reply.You wrote "you would not need to touch it unless it has been changed before". But I was experimented with Color Management a lot. And now I cant take control it. So I work on my old Corel X2. Cause the new CM is not clear to me. My friend recently purchased a X5 version, on her PC, I saw the tutorial and both of us not helped by it. Both of us from Printing industry.Can you please help us to setting the right CM for CMYK designing in X5?Ravi R.
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My problem is : after importing any CMYK tiff image (edited on Photoshop) in Corel X5 or X4, it printing darker in offset machine. But it's prints on Xerox DocuColor 12 Printer very nice.
Can u explain why?
RaviR said:But it's prints on Xerox DocuColor 12 Printer very nice.
Ok the offset device is postscript color managed and also is subject to the either positive or negative aspects of the adherence of a color integrity process during the print process itself. I.E. do they run the job using densitometers and readings based on a linearization designed for the media, or do they just eyeball it? So actual offset can vary quite a bit, the same file coul dlook great or crap fromn the same press.
Xerox DocuColor 12 is an ICC controled device and is either reacting to an embedded profile or is simply asssuining a specific source color space for the CMYK file. Since you mention X4 and X5 I am asuing that there is no embedded profile and the device is asuming a CMYK profile that just happens to please you.
Thanks David Milisock, Thanks for your response. I got narely same dark (extra black) print results from two other presses. So, now I think, there is some problem in my Corel X5 color setting. What to do? Thanks RaviR
RaviR said:What to do? Thanks RaviR
If you got the same result on two presses then I ask this in X5 are you using the default color management settings? Is it the same printing company using two different presses or two different print companies and two different presses?
I use X5 all the time and color should and color is state of the art. My books at www.graphictechnology.com have detailed answers.
I may be that the presses are correct and the digital device is modifying the images. Can you post screen captures of your X5 CM settings and describe your work flow in detail?
Hi David,
I was talking about two different print companies, both are using Heidelberg 4 color offset machines.
My color management setting screenshoot is on my first post (above).
I cant effort a Color calibrator device, so I use a normal viewing method to setup my CRT monitor.
Plz help me. And thanks for your kind effort.
Ravi R
RaviR said:I cant effort a Color calibrator device, so I use a normal viewing method to setup my CRT monitor.
Ok your color management settings beg a couple questions. First during file creation are you converting all RGB elements in your file to CMYK and are you creating all vector elements as CMYK?
If you are not doing all your conversions and creation as CMYK then change your methods and strat using CMYK only for press. Then you can turn off soft proofing.
Second please describe your system specifications in detail. Specifically your video card and monitor.
BTW I still do all my critical color corrections on CRT displays.
I'm always use photoshop to edit pictures/bitmaps and then save them into tiff format (16 bit). And in CorelDraw, I always check all objects carefully for CMYK.I use AOC P7S91 CRT monitor and NVIDIA GeForce 9500 GT (512 mb) Graphics card on a Intel C2D PC. My Mainboard is Intel G31PR with 2GB DDR2 Ram and 500 GB Seagate 7200 RPM HDD.I think it should help you to solve my problem.Thanks in advance.Ravi R