Is there any tutorial on Print Imposition? that also shows how to customize it for many pages
The basic rules for print imposition, (from one who spent 50 years in the printing trade) are:-
1. The total number of pages must be divisable by 4.2. The odd numbered page must always be on the right hand side.3. The page numbers of each pair of pages will always total one more than the number of pages.e.g. If you are printing a 16 page booklet.then page 1 will be paired with page 16.
for more complex impositions the rules may vary depending on how the sheet will be folded.
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Foster, you can edit your posts via the grey "More" button ; )
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EchoAlfaThe basic rules for print imposition, (from one who spent 50 years in the printing trade) are:-
Thanks for those EchoAlfa, but nothing more than this available free on whole of the internet?
Complex imposition is always a PITA for me. Thank you for sharing this information. These tips will definitely help in confirming the correctness of laid down pages.
Looking forward for a WIKI page on this topic form you.
CorelianIs there any tutorial on Print Imposition?
Hi Corelian as we all are, you are not the only one who's looking for this.
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crikey, you don't want much do you? It's a big subject and one tute wouldn't really be enough. A wiki here'd be pretty cool though. On the other hand Foster's right, I can't see anyone spending that much time on such a thing for nothing... unless after some research you fancy creating one. So, if you do feel like it, I can suggest you begin here...
Imposition.... First off and rule number one is that if you're getting a job done at a print shop, chat with the person who is printing the job. They'll know how they want to impose the thing in the most cost-effective way for them. Really simple. Pretty much always, the printer will prefer to do their own laydowns. Sorry to sound like it's an arcane thing, it's not, but it's a sound way to work. They know all their favourite trims and gutters - it's their job after all. Make friends with your printer and listen to him/her.
Next up, if you really want to learn about it, don't just search on the internet for 'print imposition'. The major searches you need to look at are 'Sheetwise', 'Work-and-turn', and 'Work-and-Tumble' (feel free to step in with more suggestions if anyone is reading this). Heaps of info out there and as you read it all you'll see why each job can need a different way of imposing it. It's all down to using the paper stock with least waste :o)
Thirdly, after the internet searches, it's back to the printer that you've made friends with. They will very likely teach you all you want to know, freely and with enthusiasm. Just don't forget that another printer may well have a completely different way of working that suits their presses.
Take a look here:
http://www.printindustry.com/newsletter_45.htmI'm sure you'll enjoy the gatefold and barn door section there :o)
http://glossary.ippaper.com/default.asp?req=glossary/term/2553&hlite=true&querytext=work and turn
This is VERY important:
This is pretty useful:
There's even a Wiki page here:
a nice sixteen pager :o)
Oh, and do look around in here:
See? Lots out there.
Give my best to the printer you make friends with and have fun learning. I'll look forward to reading your wiki too :o)
FosterCoburnWhy MUST it be free? If someone takes their time to create the resource that
helps you, why shouldn't they receive compensation for it?
Hi Foster, Can't u sale it separately the imposition section of ur book? Or will I have to buy ur full book, as I currently just need the detailed info on Imposition.
Paul's links are very good.
If you are in any doubt about imposition the easiest way is to make a dummy/mock-up by folding the sheet as you intend and then number each page accordingly whilst it is folded then open out flat and there is your imposition.
Imposition depends largely on the methods to be used for folding; I once had an auto folding machine. and the manual illustrated 87 different ways of folding the same sized sheet of paper.
Personally I would leave it in the hands of the printer.
CorelianHi Foster, Can't u sale it separately the imposition section of ur book? Or will I have to buy ur full book, as I currently just need the detailed info on Imposition.
Seems like to ask on a bookshop: "I just want to know who's the killer.. can I buy only the final chapter of the book?" or go to the cinema and say: "I just want to see the final battle of StarWars... Can I pay only for a few minutes or I will have to buy the same of the entire movie?"
EchoAlfaIf you are in any doubt about imposition the easiest way is to make a dummy/mock-up by folding the sheet as you intend and then number each page accordingly whilst it is folded then open out flat and there is your imposition.
I allways do it, specially ofr magazines or other impositions. And i believe is necessary for beginners but is also good for experienced users
EchoAlfaImposition depends largely on the methods to be used for folding
Yes, and not only for the folding mahine, also about the printer machine, the size of the printer and the size of the paper, the amount of pages and, of course, the prices.
EchoAlfaPersonally I would leave it in the hands of the printer.
The first time I read I believe you are talking about the printer machine (some printers had imposition tools) but then I read again and I mean you are talking about the printer company, so I totally agree.
Hi EchoAlfa, this is what I've been doing and have no problems in doing it either, But the problem is I don't know how to create my imposition layout in the Corel's Imposition Signatures based on my dummy, So I have to do it in the document, that requires a lot of effort. In short I can't customize my Imposition Layouts. Any help will be highly appreciated on doing it in Corel.
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