After all these years and updates, CorelPP STILL does not support text borders/stroke?? I just don't understand why not. Every version I keep hoping, but always get dissappointed. Now X4 comes along and still nothing. Photoshop has supported this feature for years, but why can't Corel keep up? It seems to me that they focus all their efforts on CorelDRAW and for CorelPHOTO-PAINT, they just go in and change the icons and call it a day. Maybe I'm missing something and just can't find this feature hidden somewhere (wishful thinking, I'm sure)??
For a few years now to simulate this effect I have to go into DRAW and create a text object with a border. Then copy it. Go into Photo-Paint and create another text object. Then paste the DRAW text object into the PP text object and see how it looks. If the border is too thick or too thin, then i have to start all over again. But if the border is good, then at least i have the ability to alter the letters in the text while still keeping the effect which is good. But it seems to me that if I can mimick the effect in PP, why can't Corel simply implement it into the software fully and give us the ability to change the border thickness and color right there within PP?
Don't get me wrong, I love the Corel products and prefer them over Photoshop and Illustrator, but I wish that Corel would listen to its customers and fix the current problems and if at all possible, match many of the features of the Adobe counterparts.
What do you guys think?
Ok, so it was a little exhaggerated for me to say that all they do is change the icons, but when you compare the new features between DRAW and PP, you can clearly see which one got more attention. And this happens on nearly every single release of the product since I can remember (I've been using the Corel Suite since version 6.0).
I realize that we need to speak up as a group for Corel to hear us, but for things like text borders, this should have been implemented about 4 versions back! I would love to hear how many people who actually use PP frequently ever wanted to give their text a simple outline and realize that they can't. And then you scratch your head and say, "but you can do it in DRAW, why not PP?". And yes, I realize that they are 2 different animals in the sense tha one is vector and the other is raster based graphics, but the need and possiblity is still there. I remember seeing this simple feature available in Adobe Photoshop back around version 6 or 7 (someone correct me if I'm wrong). Adobe is Corel's direct competitor, so shouldn't Corel be watching what the competition is doing?
Believe me, I'm not this angry person just bashing Corel. It's quite the opposite. I love the Corel products and just want to see them succeed. It just frightens me that with every release, they are getting left farther and farther behind Adobe.
Corel, please don't make me switch to from CorelPHOTO-PAINT to Adobe Photoshop...please!
As suggested by other users, I'm attaching a screenshot of what I'm talking about. Now that I think of it, maybe I should've referred to the text border/stroke as "outline" instead...but I figured most people in the industry would know what I'm talking about. In the first screenshot I have PP with a "Sample" text and the next screenshot is DRAW with the same sample text but with a border/stroke/outline. THIS is what I'd like to accomplish in PP. One would think it would be a simple enough feature. Hopefully this screenshot will clear up any confusion.
Note: Yes, the screenshots are using X3 just because it is what I currently had installed on my other computer. I have installed X4 already and there is still no such feature available.
There's a way to achieve what you want, but it doesn't always produce very good results.
HTH
Roy
And that's exactly what I mean. 8 steps to simply achieve a static outline effect? Not very efficient, don't you think? We need a dynamic text outline where we can edit that text at any time while still retaining the outline properties. I hope you're listening, Corel!
Well I guess this is why Corel will never implement this feature into PP because everyone is willing to use workarounds rather than ask for the feature to be implemented within one single product instead of having to use 2 different ones simultaneously. If you've noticed in my original post, I had mentioned that I already use the technique you mentioned:
Concept211 said:For a few years now to simulate this effect I have to go into DRAW and create a text object with a border. Then copy it. Go into Photo-Paint and create another text object. Then paste the DRAW text object into the PP text object and see how it looks. If the border is too thick or too thin, then i have to start all over again. But if the border is good, then at least i have the ability to alter the letters in the text while still keeping the effect which is good. But it seems to me that if I can mimick the effect in PP, why can't Corel simply implement it into the software fully and give us the ability to change the border thickness and color right there within PP?
So you can achieve the outlines in PP to an extent by copying the vector object from DRAW, but if you need to tweak the thickness of that outline, you then have to start the process all over again. Am I crazy for requesting such a feature? I feel like I'm being attacked for such a simple request.
Concept211 said:Am I crazy for requesting such a feature? I feel like I'm being attacked for such a simple request
I have no idea if you're crazy, but if you're in graphics it will help if you're a tad touched. I don't think you should be attacked for the request. I would add that if your request is granted then add full feature text editing in the image editors both photo-PAINT and Photoshop because they are just plain bad at it.
I never wanted such a request since using Draw since the mid nineties (I believe) maybe earlier with the direct link between Draw and Photo-PAINT it has been so fast for me to create any text and or text effect I wanted and quickly convert it seamlessly to an image for web that I ignored the text features in PS and PP.
To make the text features of either program useful for me one would need to rewrite the text features completely from the ground up.
Wow...what a wonderful user community we have here. "A tad touched", huh? All I have to say is thank you for making my mind up to fully embrace Adobe and its ability to provide new and improved features with a user-base that doesn't resist change and/or improvements. Within seconds, I was able to create the effect that I wanted in Photoshop without the use of Illustrator or any other secondary software (and it's dynamic...meaning that the text, border thickness, color, etc can be changed at any time within the same program):
But with those rounded corners it doesn't look anything like the sample you showed that you were trying to achieve in your your earlier example!
RoyReed said:But with those rounded corners it doesn't look anything like the sample you showed that you were trying to achieve in your your earlier example!
That's very true, but at least the functionality is there for at least that. I'm sure it wouldn't take much more for Adobe to enhance the stroke feature with the option to use rounded or sharp points. Maybe a request can be made to Adobe and see how the community reacts to it...