Hi,
Using the Object Manager is a pain!
I wish to click on and item and immediately it will zoom to that object and group it then I want to rename the object.
Please implement this on the present upgrade for X7.
Thanks
Could it be that those who use the object manager for selecting objects are illustrator converts. I have never understood why anyone would put every object on a different layer. You can still arrange objects over each other even if they're all on Layer 1. And btw when you click an object it tells you what layer it's on down in the object information area.
Myron said:Could it be that those who use the object manager for selecting objects are illustrator converts.
That sounds totally nonsensical. CorelDraw created a feature for Illustrator Converts rather than for CorelDraw users.
Myron said:I have never understood why anyone would put every object on a different layer.
I've never witnessed anyone doing such a thing in 20 years of using both Illustrator and CorelDraw. But I'm guessing you are saying that you've seen a million Illustrator users doing exactly that. On the other hand, the layer system in Illustrator is really good. The layers are there to help you to organize your art. Depending on your level of skill you will use layers in different ways. At my level all of my art is on a single layer whether I use CorelDraw or Illustrator, but I have other things that need to be on it's own layer. Special colors that print but are not visible in the art, manually created registration marks for lower tech customers, simulated ground colors that don't print, etc. I do not mix these things into my art layer. Sometimes a piece of art is a little more complicated and requires separate layers in the color separation process. 99% of the time, I use a single layer for all the art. Rarely I will have to place some part on a separate layer for the purpose of doing color separations but it happens.
Myron said:And btw when you click an object it tells you what layer it's on down in the object information area.
OK, that's definitely better than nothing. Why would Corel put it there instead of right in the layer is anybody's guess. Illustrator and other graphic software will indicate the layer, directly on that layer which is really smart, rather than requiring the user to actually read text at the bottom of the program.
KuttyJoe said: Myron I have never understood why anyone would put every object on a different layer. I've never witnessed anyone doing such a thing in 20 years of using both Illustrator and CorelDraw
Myron I have never understood why anyone would put every object on a different layer.
I've never witnessed anyone doing such a thing in 20 years of using both Illustrator and CorelDraw
Not every object but way too many layers for no reason. Especially for a file that was sent for output and 5 layers are turned of and those layers are 40% of the file size. I see this in Photoshop too.
David Milisock said: KuttyJoe Myron I have never understood why anyone would put every object on a different layer. I've never witnessed anyone doing such a thing in 20 years of using both Illustrator and CorelDraw Not every object but way too many layers for no reason. Especially for a file that was sent for output and 5 layers are turned of and those layers are 40% of the file size. I see this in Photoshop too.
KuttyJoe Myron I have never understood why anyone would put every object on a different layer. I've never witnessed anyone doing such a thing in 20 years of using both Illustrator and CorelDraw
This conversation is neither here nor there. Why do CorelDraw users want so badly not just to criticize Illustrator but also to criticize Illustrator users? It's kind of sad to watch. What do you gain by criticizing people who don't know what they are doing. The lack of experience or knowledge is not exclusive to people who use one program or another! It's childish talk.
I think the concept of increased features in the object manager is a good idea as long as it does not lead to the abusive use of layers,
KuttyJoe said:This conversation is neither here nor there. Why do CorelDraw users want so badly not just to criticize Illustrator but also to criticize Illustrator users?
In most cases it's because they're such screw-ups? Also Illustrators mind set is well difficult at best.
I hope a tough discussions on this forum will prevent CorelDraw users from using layers like Adobe people do, there is certainly a time and place for adding layers but it's currently used in a manner that makes more problems than it solves.
I am reading the same post, I believe a discussion on improvements to the object manager are in order, as long as we remember that we might get what we ask for. An example from the past was transparent shadows, everyone wanted them, on the Adobe side AI 9 was so bad the only fix was for use to buy AI 10 and to this day we suffer. It took Corel from version 7 or 8 to X4 to get them working as conceived and to this day we suffer although Corel has a better work flow for such things.
As far as the users here disliking Adobe Illustrator and the users of that product. So what!
I can count on one hand the Adobe files that come in that are usable as received in a month and I know that those products are not that bad. Then I go to the Adobe forums or trade show training and I understand why the files are screwed, it's the way Adobe thinks and wants you to work.
If you know what you're doing and are wiling to work within the Adobe constraints you can be just fine, but the mind set is not very productive for a wide enough work set, IMO.
KuttyJoe said:Ariel, are you reading the same thread? lol
Yes, of course, I know exactly what I said, I'm not crazy. Why do ask it? and post twice the same... and laugh?