Maybe it's just an issue for those of us with metered Internet and who use Windows as MS recommends, but my Documents folder syncs to the Cloud (default OneDrive configuration), so I can't have various temp files in there wasting my bandwidth for no reason, nor would I ever want ANY company to put a bunch of folders in my Documents directory. "Documents" means documents I have created, not templates or other stuff to be installed by the software vendor.
This is precisely why Windows includes the %appdata% folders: for companies to put files that may be user specific, but managed by the app, not the user. The Documents folder is intended ONLY for files managed and created by the user. I know it's hardly a matter of life and death, but it really rubs me the wrong way when companies act like they are so important they can override the OS to do things their own different (and in my case costly) way.
I've used Corel since the '90s, so I know this is not a new thing (Corel has always annoyed me with the folders it puts in my Documents folder), but the sheer number of folders and the inclusion of a "Working Files" directory (so now 2 new directories in the root of my Documents folder) seems to indicate the problem is getting worse, not better.
Is there any way to easily move ALL of the folders out of the Documents directory permanently and without having to edit over a dozen directories manually via Tools -> Global Options -> File Locations?
Thanks,Colin
Why in God's name would you configure your system like this?
David, I believe that's the textbook example of an unhelpful response (instead of answering the question, you criticize the user for preferences).
However, to your question, here are several answers (TL;DR there are good reasons, so please help with solutions):
Even if none of those reasons are compelling or relevant to you, I hope you can at least see that I have valid reasons in my situation for wanting my systems configured the way they are. I do not intend to suggest that everyone should have the same preferences (but per #3, what Corel is doing as a default is objectively wrong -- allowing users to put it in Documents is fine, but doing it by default is not), just that mine are reasonable enough that there should be an easy solution to stop CDGS from creating not just 1, but 2 top level folders in my Documents directory and requiring manually changing 22 individual directories at last count. Worse, because Corel doesn't sync anything like that, I would need to do the same on every computer. That's 66 directories to redefine!
So, with your question answered probably far more verbosely than you expected, can you please offer some helpful suggestions on how to move those directories? And is there a registry location or INI file or something that stores this, so that after I have moved them on one computer, I can just copy that to the others so I don't have to do repeat across all PC's and every time I upgrade one (with 3 PC's I average about 1.5 PC upgrades every year)?
Thank you,Colin
I had posted a lengthy response detailing why. The forum default-blocked it as spam. While we await my appeal, to summarize:
1. It's the default for Office subscribers and OneDrive users, so not exactly a fringe config.
2. It's smart for the auto-backup, version history, and cross-platform always-sync'd data, especially for multi-PC users, and I use 3.
3. Windows provides other locations in the Users folder specifically for programs to create their own directories.
4. Live in rural area with satellite Internet (Starlink, which actually is not metered right now, but was for the past several months).
5. Conserving bandwidth by not syncing temp files is helpful, even if not on a metered connection.
6. Personal preference: I like to keep my Documents well-organized, b/c it's the default location for file dialogs.
So, with that in mind, is there an easy way to change the locations and then copy that config change (e.g., a registry export or INI or XML file) to all my PC's?
I run 8 systems in my home studio, my CorelDRAW files vary in size from a few megabytes to 2.5 gigabytes each. I do an eclectic set of work from a business card to 200 feet donor walls and a significant amount of architectural image editing. I also do my own wildlife and landscape photography. I've been doing this for over 30 years, I have 5 terabytes of active files and 10 terabytes of archived files. I can't imagine what that would cost with Microsoft.
I believe I have a reasonable grasp of file organization.
Microsoft wants you to use OneDrive, it's a service that they sell, when creating CorelDRAW documents unless your files are very small it's not an efficient process for a multitude of reasons. In fact w8th clients that I provide support to I find cloud based workflows to be detrimental be it Sketchup, Adobe products or CorelDRAW.
I go either to Newegg or CDW and buy USB 3 backup drives about $150 a piece and I have 2.
I configure CorelDRAW NOT to make backups of its files.
I have one system that acts as a file storage server fully shared, it is also a workstation, I created a folder structure based on client names, job names and job numbers.
My other systems are all attached to that network. Files are opened from that system, saved and backed up there twice a day using the Windows utility.
I do use OneDrive to access files that I may need when on location and for transfer fron non network devices but quite frankly web based file processing with any graphic application is non productive do to internet transfer times, even with a top of the line cable system. I open 2 GB files in 20 seconds across my network. My photography workstation archives client files on the server but holds my own photos which are backed up VIA the Windows utility to a 3TB USB3 drive.
I use WSFTP to upload client proofs to my web site for client download, they markup and upload to their preferred file transfer process.
I've been running this for decades, of course it's easier for clients now with the proliferation of cloud based transfer sites.
David, one of the things in my original answer that Corel blocked as spam was the comment that your initial reply was textbook example of not helpful: you didn't answer my question, provided no helpful information, and just complained about my user preferences. Your second post here continues the problem.If you don't have an answer to the question or constructive advice, then why respond at all?
You are clearly expert (not just on this, but I've seen many of your other posts here over the years), so, as an expert, what are all those locations Corel creates for, specifically, do they change much with usage (like temp files) or they just storing things like fonts and clipart that don't change much once installed? Is there a way to change the locations without having to manually tweak 22 file locations on every PC I use? For example, is there a single master location I can change the root path for all of its subdirectories? If not, if I change on one PC, is that change stored somewhere I can export and copy over to all my other computers?
You seem to agree that CorelDraw should not put files in Documents, as you say, "when creating CorelDRAW documents unless your files are very small it's not an efficient process for a multitude of reasons." Well, given that CorelDraw, for me, is a far less important program than Word and Excel, I'm not going to break everything else just for CorelDraw.
To your question on cost, an Office subscription that includes OneDrive for 1TB for 1 person is about $70/year. 6 TB is $99/year (often available at a discount down to about the 1TB price). That includes unlimited (I think, certainly a lot) of version backups for free regardless of size going back a fixed amount of time (not sure how long, but between a month and a year). So no need for Corel backups or other offsite backups, as OneDrive enables you to revert to an older version of a file anyway (even if hit by ransomware). In my case, it's effectively free, because I need the Office subscription anyway for Outlook, Word, and Excel, so the marginal cost for me is $0.
CorelDraw does not get to dictate how Windows works. As a program running on Windows, it should follow the UI guidelines, which include storing program data in locations other than a user's Documents folder. If it wants to provide additional options for users who want to put everything in Documents, that's great, but unless there's an easy way to relocate its root directories it currently creates in Documents, it's just being a bad actor. I say that as a serious fan of CorelDraw since at least version 4 or 5, maybe 3, in the early-mid '90s, and a guy Corel flew up to their office for a photoshoot around some positive quotes I had posted publicly back around 2000 (but I think that was for WordPerfect Office, when they were pushing that as an alternative to MS Office, not CDGS).