How do I turn off the new bring into focus mode?
Can I change what the double left click operation does?
As far as I know you can't but I suggest that you go into Windows and set your double click speed. I can only imagine how many errors your sending to your applications if you accidently double click regularly.
Thanks David,
I'll play around with the double click speed to see if it helps.
I"m using a new laptop with a touchpad and this new function is driving me nuts! I created a ticket with Corel draw several days ago but typically haven't received a response.
Power users get problems when the software doesn't behave the way it should do.In this particular case it can be blamed on a new feature that hasn't yet been fine tuned to reach its full potential.As long as the software works the way it should do, these power users, who take advantage of a customizable workspace and helpful macros and tricks, will run in circles around any "average user".Unfortunately though, Draw has still too many UI- and stability bugs that tend to slow them/us down.
So who are you to say how it should work? You lease the software not own it.
You modify your system and when Corel adds a new feature to Draw it conflicts.
That's not a power users it's a typical CorelDRAW user. As someone who was actually paid to do time studies on productivity I beg to differ.
Macros are only useful for repeated tasks, especially output tasks if they repeat many time a year. Unfortunately many Draw users don't understand that.
Customized work spaces have a limt, unfortunately time saving due to customizations are more often than not imagined, an unfortunate malady of small to very small companies.
For a few reasons heavily customized work spaces in most cases cost more in time then they save. The biggest problem with customized work spaces is sharing work stations between users, in some cases due to extreme and bizarre customizations by extreme and bizarre users, (there are no shortage of the with Draw users), instability, excessive need for IT support.
True cost is the time to create the work space, lost time to regularly maintain the space, transferring the space during upgrades. Lost time acclimating another user to a work station.
The cost of IT support for a CorelDRAW user who is extreme and bizarre is so high it's cheaper to fire them and put in Adobe CC. I've seen it many times.
Respectfully David, who are you to say how WE SHOULD WORK?We're not asking to remove the feature. It appeared for a reason. Most likely some users must have required it. IMO, this feature is painful and a nuisance. I only wish to have the opportunity to turn it ON or OFF. It's a PLUS, No?What's more? In this 2023 version, many vector objects, who used to be grouped, after deleting all objects but one, this left object still appears grouped (bug). We don't always notice until double clicking on the darn thing, then the damn FOCUS MODE pops in!! I want to be able to tweak my objects and switch to others without having to open and close the focus mode every darn time!Creating our own workspace is worth the time spent. I might consider myself a 'poweruser', like Ronny mentions. I'm used to my tools, I know where they are and with a simple click, they are easy to reach, instead of browsing through the drop down menus, options dialog box, etc...
I'm not telling you how to work, if you're happy continue.
I can tell you that controlled time studies over a period of 1 and 2 work days have in general work proven that custom workspaces do not improve work output. There are efficiencies in repeated simplistic tasks. Due to stability issues custom workspaces are in general have a negative affect on productivity.
I can also tell you that in the decades that I've been on this and the previous forum custom workspaces are 1 if not the most often causes of Draw problems.
After nearly 30 years of consistent bas performance haven't we learned?
I've head that continuing the same behavior and expecting different results is a definition of insanity!
David Milisock said:Due to stability issues custom workspaces are in general have a negative affect on productivity.
If instability issues appear due to a workspace that is customized according to normal customization routines, then there is a serious problem with that software.So if Draw can not handle what it is designed to do and supposed to handle, then the problem is in Draw, not the poor user who is trying to make it better suited for a specific workflow.For users who jump between many different programs, it is very practical to be able to customize the workspace to make their UI and basic functions as similar as possible.I mean, we all expect for example Ctrl+C to Copy, or Ctrl+A to Select All, in any software of course, and if there are other basics that differ between software A and B, then why shouldn't we customize one of them to make it easier (and faster) for us to work?It is not rocket science to make customization rock solid.
David Milisock said:Ronny customized his system and is a victim of that mindset.
As I very clearly explained, twice: Most of the times it has nothing to do with double clicks caused by customization or whatever, it is a result of double clicking objects that are grouped when we think they aren't.Stephan also brings up another reason why this can happen, which takes us by surprise; the infamous legacy bug that leaves a single object as a "Group of 1 Objects".
With complex files I always single click an object first, then you'll know if it's grouped, double clicking by accident is just sloppy.
I'm doing testing today on the group of 1. I suspect this is the user not understanding how the program works but I need to work through it first.
When you make a group the program tags all items in the group as part of a group. As Ibread your complaints when you ungroup depending on the process the last object in the group is left still tagged as part of a group.
Corel I believe resolved that originally with the ungroup all command. I have to test this in detail.
Customization in CorelDRAW is a crap shoot, at best, at worst it has been the source of huge amounts of time.
Problems with customization have been notorious since forever and are not any better now. For many it's a fools errand.
I am unable to replicate the group legacy bug.
Please provide instructions so I can test.
David Milisock said:With complex files I always single click an object first, then you'll know if it's grouped, double clicking by accident is just sloppy.
So, assuming that the Pick tool is already selected, you single click an object that you already know shouldn't be part of a group and then check Status Bar or Objects docker to make sure it isn't, after that you go to the toolbox and select the Shape tool, and then go back to the object to start editing, is that correct?I personally double click (very deliberately, not by accident) and start editing. Not sloppy, instead very efficient and fast.
David Milisock said:I'm doing testing today on the group of 1. I suspect this is the user not understanding how the program works but I need to work through it first.
I suspect we have a particular user who thinks he knows how the program works, but has very little knowledge about bugs that has been known since 2019.
There were so many issues with 2019 one cannot remember them all. I quit testing with 2019 as it was costing me a fortune.
Tell me, how you replicate the bug. With my methods of using groups it does not happen.
David Milisock said:Please provide instructions so I can test.
Here's a very simple way to recreate it:Select two objects and group them.Select one of the objects in the group (Ctrl+click, which I assume you are familiar with) and delete it.Select the remaining "single" object and check its status in Objects docker or Status Bar, and you can see that it is now a "Group of 1 Objects".