Hi,
Using the Object Manager is a pain!
I wish to click on and item and immediately it will zoom to that object and group it then I want to rename the object.
Please implement this on the present upgrade for X7.
Thanks
KuttyJoe said:A part of me wants to blurt out that it seems really, really bad practice to be selecting objects in the object manager like that. But CorelDraw is not the only program to be set up this way. I would like to know, what is the reason someone would select objects in this way, rather than selecting them directly in the document? Using the object manager in this way seems much, much harder and more time consuming when I can just select the object where my eyes are directly focused. Can someone please tell me why that method is better than directly selecting the object. Maybe I will learn something useful and start using it myself if it's actually better.
i feel the same when you select an object and wxpand automatilcally the whole branch. The, I prefer to select objects directly on the screen, but sometimes is better to use hte Object Manager for this, because sometimes there's a "hidden" object, sometimes as part of one group, and if you select each object using the Tab key is not easy to see it.
Ariel said:sometimes there's a "hidden" object, sometimes as part of one group, and if you select each object using the Tab key is not easy to see it.
This is a situation that I've never experienced. And if I attempt to use the object manager where you see a little generic shape it would seem to be really time consuming and difficult to find the generic shape in the object manager that matches something in the art. If that were the best way of doing it, I would never use that software. It's too slow.
CorelDraw allows you, via key modifier to select the objects below other objects, and also to lock objects. If we are using these options very well, then it will be faster I think than going into object manager, and looking back and forth from the art to the object manager trying to find an object.
In Adobe software there are all these key commands and key modifiers that allow you to move very fast through the art. In later versions of Adobe software, Adobe began to add features for people who are actually mousing around and not taking advantage of key commands and modifiers. I thought it was strange but I understood later. I thought, why would I use any of these new things that require me to use the mouse when I'm already doing it much faster with key commands and modifiers. But for people new to the software, the mouse is how they're doing everything. I think the expanding object manager is this kind of feature. For people who are mousing around. They are unfortunately working much slower than they could be working if they actually learned to use all the key commands and modifiers built into the software.
KuttyJoe said:CorelDraw allows you, via key modifier to select the objects below other objects
Really, there's no need to modify or create shortcuts: hold Alt and select an object below. Or use the Tab key for navigate between objects, and Shift+Tab for navigate on reverse order. That's what I do always, but some user like to use the Object Manager, and I respect teh workflow of other people 8not all people should work on the same way, and I don't believe to better than anybody). But, from my personal point of view, the main concept of the Object Manager should be different. I believe that Corel should merge the Page Sorter View with the Object Manager, in order to view and manipulate pages, and view and manipulate layers on each page or across pages. Something similar to the InDesign and Quark page manager, allowing to edit layers at the same time. Also, allows to apply a Master Page to each page or remove Master Page from selected pages
Ariel said:Really, there's no need to modify or create shortcuts: hold Alt and select an object below.
"holding Alt" is what's known as a key "modifier". My comment was about using key modifiers vs object manager. Alt is one of those key modifiers. And suggested that using key modifiers was a faster way of accessing objects than digging into the object manager. I did not say that it was or wasn't. I'm asking the question and saying that so far, I believe that key modifiers allow for a faster workflow. But I see you're talking about how people "like" to work so there's probably little reason to go on with this discussion with your lack of logical reasoning. Only logic matters and what a person likes to do does not mean that it makes them faster or that it is easier.
KuttyJoe said:"holding Alt" is what's known as a key "modifier". My comment was about using key modifiers vs object manager. Alt is one of those key modifiers.
Sorry, I misunderstand you, therefore, but both have the same idea
KuttyJoe said: Myron ust seems that because design schools teach adobe most are taught that you have to use multi layers. You guys have the craziest statements. All of you have a bone to pick not just with Adobe, but also with people who use Adobe software. Not only do Adobe users not know what they're doing, but even the schools that teach them. LOL
Myron ust seems that because design schools teach adobe most are taught that you have to use multi layers.
You guys have the craziest statements. All of you have a bone to pick not just with Adobe, but also with people who use Adobe software. Not only do Adobe users not know what they're doing, but even the schools that teach them. LOL
Not really. If you use Photoshop, each object is a layer, automatically. And that's right. You can group layers, merge layers, etc but the main concept is to treat each object as a layer. I it's not good or bad, just it's the way that the program works. And PhotoPaint and others have similar concept. But some users want to use the same Photoshop layers with CorelDRAW, and that's wrong since both programs works different. Even Illustrator is different than Photoshop, relative to the Layers. I notice several files where each object is places on a separate layer on CorelDRAW, and this is a conceptual error, but I hear more than one time: "I want to work like Photoshop". but since both programs are different, the best way is to use each program in the right way.
Ariel said:If you use Photoshop, each object is a layer, automatically. And that's right. You can group layers, merge layers, etc but the main concept is to treat each object as a layer. I it's not good or bad, just it's the way that the program works. And PhotoPaint and others have similar concept. But some users want to use the same Photoshop layers with CorelDRAW, and that's wrong since both programs works different.
I said that. But some of you are saying that this is a problem of "Adobe users". That's the crazy part.
Ariel said:Even Illustrator is different than Photoshop, relative to the Layers.
Bringing Photoshop into this is just making the water more muddy. You're just creating confusion now. Nobody is treating Illustrator like Photoshop. You have people who use more layer than would be necessary for you. You think this is wrong. Maybe it is. But it's a people thing. Not an Adobe people thing. LOL
Ariel said:I notice several files where each object is places on a separate layer on CorelDRAW
It's such a small thing that it's not worth a conversation. There's a key command to simply merge layers. It takes less than one second to solve this problem, yet you guys are having a conversation about it. And blaming it on Adobe and it's users.
Ariel said:I hear more than one time: "I want to work like Photoshop"
LOL I think a bigger problem is that you guys are so inexperienced that you find this to be a problem worth talking about. I don't even notice something like this. I merge the layers and don't even think about it. Maybe you guys need more experience?
Ariel said:Don't confuse the terms, KuttyJoe. We are not talking about Adobe or all Adobe user, only about "some CorelDRAW users" and "some Adobe users".
We must be reading different threads.