I've upgraded from X6 and Tabs are driving me insane. I drag in any number of images to view and work on them side by side. What do I need? - auto-resizing, floating windows and all the real estate I can muster.
1) Sure, open images using Open or Open Recent... and if the Option is set to "Open documents in floating window" they will open in floating windows, but drag them in from Windows Explorer and they tab. Can we have consistency here? Better still, can we get rid of tabs?
2) Tabs should be optional. They take up real estate and get in the way of working with multiple images.
3) The snap feature which opens the image to full workspace should also be an option. Why should I have to use Ctrl just to dock windows across the top? Lunacy.
4) no auto-resize of the floating window? Seriously? I mean, seriously? Corel clearly wants me to use tabs, but seriously, no auto-resize of the windows? Really? How many lines of coding must that have saved?
Here's where I'm coming from. I use SolidEdge CAD and when they introduced a revolutionary non-history-based method of creating 3D objects they had the good sense to maintain the old history-based method for those who preferred it. Everybody was happy. Cannot the same be done here and allow floating windows exactly as they were in X6, just for those of us who prefer/need that way of working?
It's not just tedious to "open a file, then manually resize the document window, then open a file, then manually resize the document window,", but if your mouse moves a bit wrong one of those files snaps to a tab, sometimes tabbed with one of those you've already arranged and then you have to start the whole process over.
I agree that the snap-to-dock thing is also a problem. It's rather aggressive in how far it reaches out to "help" you dock a window when dragging it.
aliisa (and anyone else using multiple images in PhotoPaint)I usually only have a few images open at a time and tabbed windows is nothing that bothers me, so maybe I should stay out of this conversation.But I got curious and decided to have a look at it with fresh eyes, and see how I would do it.First of all, let's say I open up six images in PhotoPaint X6 and 2018.In X6, they come in cascaded and in 2018 tabbed. Not very user friendly in any of them if I want to get an overview.Tiling Vertically seems to be the best option in X6, but the same command in 2018 groups them to a maximum of three horizontal windows. Not good.Tiling Horizontally looks better but they are still grouped.So, what I have to do next is to drag one tabbed window from each group down, and make it snap to be a separate window. Could be a little tricky but it is definitely doable in a couple of seconds, each.So now they look pretty similar with six windows, 2018 with thinner frames offers a little more image area but it is more difficult to see where an image begins and ends. No big deal though.If this how I want it to be (don't know about you), I see a clear benefit in 2018: It is possible to drag the window dividers between them and decrease or increase the size without overlapping anything.Drag and drop works in both, and so does mouse wheel zoom and scroll when hovering over a window.One thing that I see as a real plus with the new behavior (already mentioned) is the ability to drag a window outside PP, and even into a second monitor. For those with two monitors this should be a super feature.The "new" window behavior seems alright to me, but since I don't have to work this way, I am probably missing something.It would be very interesting hearing what it is, most of all, that makes it so bad.(it is probably mentioned somewhere here, but...)
Irrespective of the argument over tabbing, there's no reason why we shouldn't have the option to turn on/off auto-docking and reintroduce auto-resizing. That would help so much. Gargoyle describes what some of us currently have to put up with. It's crazy and so unproductive now as a professional graphics tool.
Question - do developers at Corel ever read these comments? If so, I'd like one of them to decloak and argue these points, show us they at least listen.
aliisa said:Question - do developers at Corel ever read these comments? If so, I'd like one of them to decloak and argue these points, show us they at least listen.
Not as part of their job. Some people will read it as any other user. Not sure if they're allowed to discuss publically about their job.