Irratating

I believe implementing a font management system not only integrated with the application but that also has the ability to use fonts in the application that are NOT installed in the OS as well as embedding fonts was a bad idea.

I only have 7,000 fonts and on a wireless network CFM can at times be an impediment to my work. On my wired network I have no issues but then again I turn of the ability to use fonts that are not installed in  the OS in CorelDraw.

The desktop is not the best place for place your fonts. it's under C:\Users\(Your user), one of the most used folder on your hard disk, not good for monitorizing constantly. Move your folder to C:\ and make sure that you are monitorizing only this folder.

By 'desktop' he means his 'desktop computer'; not the 'desktop in Windows' in his 'desktop computer' on his 'desktop'.

A basic, simple stand alone solution to just manage font libraries and install/uninstalls fonts would have actually been great. Building in the option to filter by choice, the installed fonts in the application itself, was a great idea. Though not implemented as well as it could have been, allows the user to work with only the fonts he wanted ( from the installed fonts). Most of the 240+ fonts which Windows 10 installs by default, are worthless from a designers perspective. Likewise Office, AutoCAD, Adobe, Corel and many other applications install their own fonts. Every application installed on a computer would mean additional fonts that the said application installs on to your system and then shows up in your applications. Absolutely messy system.

In a print shop, they may probably require a huge library of fonts as they receive files from all over the place and many a time in-house corrections and edits may be common place. A designer may also probably need a huge library of fonts to be able to pick and choose fonts as dictated by his/he design. This is not to say that you should have 50K fonts installed on your system. But you could have 50K fonts in your library to install any, as and when needed. A professional user will surely know how to keep his fonts under control, installing and removing, again as needed.

The people who advise keeping installed fonts under 500 or some number like that, don't realize how ridiculous that sounds, when you consider all of the above. It would probably be only a hobbyist who would work like that. Then there's the others who pride themselves on how they don't need anything but Corel installed on their computer. So absurd, that I don't even want to discuss it. I guess these good folks have one dedicated computer for each software they use.

Corel could have radically changed the way fonts were used with their font manager, and could have provided a much cleaner, simpler solution. Unfortunately, they chose to follow the crowd. I do not intend to undermine the effort and input of Claude Peloquin. He did a great job at when he was given to do. But he may have been working under a ton of constraints the rest of us would be unaware of. Many of the people from Corel who used to frequent this forum, listen and interact with the user base are no longer there. They just left. Coincidence?

Eventually, software needs to evolve...or become extinct. The choice is with the developer... not the user.

I have 7,000 of my own and I basically output, new designs require the creative option of nearly unlimited fonts to scroll through. A font manager should in my opinion should NOT INTERFACE wit the graphic application.

Suku said:

The people who advise keeping installed fonts under 500 or some number like that, don't realize how ridiculous that sounds, when you consider all of the above. It would probably be only a hobbyist who would work like that. Then there's the others who pride themselves on how they don't need anything but Corel installed on their computer. So absurd, that I don't even want to discuss it. I guess these good folks have one dedicated computer for each software they use.

 

IHi, Suku. I'm working on PrePress since a lot of years, and I know all the issues you mention. btw I worked on Mac computers for several years on Madrid, Spain. Mac uses Extensis Suitcase, a FontManager who include the option of uninstall all fonts (yes, all) except systems fonts after each restore. And I was surprised to see that ther companies used the same option enabled. You know, Mac computers presumes to be better, faster, stronger, etc  but anyway, they only use a few fonts, and uninstall all fonts on each restart. Of course, they don't have problems qith fonts. All we know that Windows has serious problems with fonts, even the legacy limit of 720 fonts is already real, although you can install 1000 or 3000 fonts, after 720 some strange things could happens: one font could be duplicated, although theorically is not possible, sometimes you delete the font, restart and the same font appears once again (and it's not about to refresh, you can see it on DOS). And sometimes "Arial Normal" looks as "Italic" or some options are not available, although they are already installed. Also, after 720 Windows can't read correctly the number of fonts. For example, if you have 2000 installed fonts, and uninstall 300, we suppose it will remain 1700, but after restart, with more free system resources, Windows now shows 2400 installed fonts. And yes, the more installed fonts, more slow will become the entire system. Of course, not all problems are relative exclusively to the amount of fonts. But most of the times, when when those kind of problems happens, uninstall fonts under 400 and restart most of the times helps or directly solve those problems. Then, the limit of 400 installed fonts is a friendly advice. Not a real limit, just a friendly advice. 

When I started using Mac one the first advice I received was: "Never use more than 100 fonts installed". "You're a Windows guy, we know that Windows users install all fonts as possible, but Mac is different". I remember thinking: "100 fonts? nobody use only 100 fonts". Bit I had read the same advice from several experts, not only from CorelDRAW, then I decide to test it. And I realize that I never used more than 100 fonts at the same time. A regular magazine could use 20/30 fonts, most of the jobs (brochures, flyers, business cards, etc) don't use more than 5 fonts. The main problem is the laziness for uninstall fonts. Most users install, install, install... but never uninstall fonts. Why not? for laziness only, because "i use it often", "I could use it on the future" "I don't want to spend time on uninstall a font that I could use it again on the future", etc. The Old FontNavigator had an useful option: the groups. Then. I create a group of fonts for some jobs that requires several fonts, such as a magazine: install the group, and after finished, uninstall the entire group. Fast, easy, simple. 

Then, it's not so "ridiculous". It's how most of the PrePress companies works. Imagine that you receive hundreds of files, and install, install, install fonts, but never uninstall... some day the computer will start having problems. Surely you have seen old or small computers running faster then newest and powerful computers. How it's possible that a humble computer could be more stable and faster than a brand new computer? Of course, not all problems are relative to fonts only, but that helps. A big Virtual Memory helps too, for example. Fonts are not the only one problem, nor the biggest issue, but a good font management is a big help. For example, some people set to monitorize the entire hard disk, and even the network. And of course the performance of the program slow down, since it's contantly monitorizing the disk or the network. The advice to use just one folder to monitorize is not any imposition, just a friendly advice that could helps some people,