Dear Forum Members,
I have EPS art that displays with vibrant colors when I view the art in either IrfranView or Adobe Illustrator. However, when I import the same art into CorelDraw X6 all the colors display as dull and not at all vibrant like the other two apps.
Obviously, it's a color management issue. I have spent 1 hour tweaking Corel Draw Color Management setting with no success. I thought changing all "Import and Paste Settings" to "Use Embedded Color Profile" would do the trick however dull colors still persist.
In short, I would really welcome anyone out there who knows how to correctly adjust Corel Draw X6 colors to post in this thread. My goal is to get Corel Draw X6 colors to match what I see in IrfranView and Adobe Illustrator.
Thank you in advance for any help.
This is the same art as low res png I opened the original file in illustrator cs6 saved it as an illustrator eps The dialogue box in illustrator says converted when saved.
I then imported it into CorelDraw x6 the original eps I suspect this was originally saved as illustrator macintosh a long time ago
There is no transparency in the file. Not that I clicked on all 7 billion objects. It is just that CD cannot cope with something as simple as (mainly) the radial gradients in this half-ancient EPS file.
Which is why resaving as a PDF or as an AI file works.
MikeWe said: with something as simple as (mainly) the radial gradients in this half-ancient EPS file.
Clearly you do not understand the difference between a true EPS file and Illustrator EPS file. Adobe cheats with all AI versions of EPS and PDF, so if these types of files are saved as Adobe Illustrator versions of these file formats only AI will open them properly.
David Milisock said: with something as simple as (mainly) the radial gradients in this half-ancient EPS file. Clearly you do not understand the difference between a true EPS file and Illustrator EPS file. Adobe cheats with all AI versions of EPS and PDF, so if these types of files are saved as Adobe Illustrator versions of these file formats only AI will open them properly. [/quote] Clearly you just love to position yourself as an authority and, at times, put others down in the process. Look. I fully understand that AI will/can save AI private data in both an EPS and (can in a) PDF. Big ripping deal. The actual EPS data in that file contains instructions for (mainly) simple two-color radial gradients. Go ahead, pull the EPS apart. Other applications can read the EPS data properly. Xara Designer Pro being used hee in the screen shot. It is only reading the EPS data, it cannot read the AI private data section (nothing can as far as I know). So before you spout off your wisdom from on high and put others down, get your facts in order. Alternately, go ahead and spout the wisdom...just do it without the air of superiority and putting others down.
with something as simple as (mainly) the radial gradients in this half-ancient EPS file.
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Clearly you just love to position yourself as an authority and, at times, put others down in the process.
Look. I fully understand that AI will/can save AI private data in both an EPS and (can in a) PDF. Big ripping deal. The actual EPS data in that file contains instructions for (mainly) simple two-color radial gradients. Go ahead, pull the EPS apart.
Other applications can read the EPS data properly. Xara Designer Pro being used hee in the screen shot. It is only reading the EPS data, it cannot read the AI private data section (nothing can as far as I know).
So before you spout off your wisdom from on high and put others down, get your facts in order. Alternately, go ahead and spout the wisdom...just do it without the air of superiority and putting others down.
What I should have said is that only an application with an AI filter can read the files. Try this change the EPS to and AI and try and open it in CD with the AI filter, may be too old but it might work. You can't open an AI EPS without the AI EPS filter, period.
CD looks for a proper Postscript Compliant file, Xara like many low cost apps use the AI interpreter because so many users improperly create Adobe AI EPS. Makes many users think the app is better because of it however one the file is converted your stuck with the short coming if any of that file format. The practice of incorrect EPS and PDF files is rampant. In pre-presswork I see it all the time, massive color shifts flows, incorrect transparency and fountain fills are common.
I generally Distill eps files and import the PDF to get rid of crap EPS files.
David,
Did you try distilling either directly with Distiller or right-clicking on a file and having Acrobat create a PDF, and then loading the file into CD? You will get the same result. Yes, the AI version works properly.
But the point is that CD's EPS import does not work with this file. The EPS file is pre-AI private data. It is an version 8 file. There is nothing special about it.
CD does a fine job on the lineal gradients in the file. Just not on the radial ones.
You really need to know what it is you are writing about in regards to other applications. XDP is using its generic EPS filter for the import. The fact is that its library is simply better in this instance than the one that Corel is using.
I assume that Corel uses the LEADTOOLS library as does Serif. In both company's applications this exact same problem occurs: Smaller radius radial gradients and the exact same incorrect colors applied to the same 2 stops. So I suspect it is a LEADTOOLS issue.
I have no idea if you bothered to download this ZIP of 4 EPS files and tried to distill or otherwise open the file. If you do download it, it is the #2 version.
I stripped out the bitmap data from the EPS file. I could upload that for you. Pure (Adobe) EPS. Corel doesn't like importing it, but it works on the second attempt. Still the wrong radial gradients, though.
Take care, Mike
Ok mikewe the answer is in your own post. Here's a, lesson in black box theory, Adobe Acrobat Distiller has one job, that job is to make PDF files from Adobe postscript compliant files. As you say Distiller CANNOT PROCESS this file correctly, that is because it is NOT an Adobe compliant postscript file.
Adobe Illustrator can properly open the file, why? It can because it is an ADOBE ILLUSTRATOR compliant EPS file.
InDesign will place the EPS file, it previews in the RIP ok but outputs incorrectly.
Once saved as an AI file CorelDRAW opens the file and outputs correctly.
CorelDRAW cannot place the EPS file correctly because CorelDRAW DOES NOT SUPPORT (for the most part) placing postscript files that are non-compliant with the Adobe rules of postscript.
GOOD because I don't want this EPS trash screwing up my output.
Hence, only applications that have Adobe Illustrator compliant EPS filters can open this file. The applications say all that is pertinent to this subject except one thing. That is will the applications that open these EPS file produce proper output files?
Adobe's programming guides for postscript allow for so many variations there really isn't only one way to encode anything. This reminds me of when Adobe used to hide font hints in their fonts and rips. The code is only open in theory. The challenge Corel and others face is dealing with all the possibilities through 3rd party tools this is not new for Corel they just haven't been able deal with all the variants.
It is true if Corel will import it Correctly it will likely print, You might have small size changes or pantone color changes, gradient fills in the wrong direction but what the heck Corel didn't invent Postscript they just use free ware Ghostscript and third party guess-ware to interpret it
Just like Rip software, there is Adobe and then the others Harlequin were usually faster at updating their rip than Adobe because Adobe didn't produce a software version until much later.
Postscript is an Adobe product and the only tests they run on rips or import, are likely for their own products output.
I used to operate a service bureau and when files failed to rip we just told people if it wasn't done in an adobe product for processing in an adobe rip they would have to figure out what was wrong with the output The program they chose created. Usually Pc users with Corel bought because it was so much less money.
Still true today. For some issues lots of programs import or produce PDF and EPS files but only a few do it correctly for use in graphic applications.
Mike has it right on this one Corel doesn't interpret the radial fills correctly the code is valid just not a Variant Corel expects
Ross Blair
Ross, actually CorelDRAW will not reprocess placed postscript, which is why these EPS files are best left as they are until they are brought up to date.
The concept here is simple, Distillers processing of these files proves these are not Adobe compliant postscript files. The fact that CorelDRAW processes them the same way, suggests that their filter is a true Adobe compliant filter.
Corel and Adobe took different paths for fountain fills, contours, transparency and other effects. This is just plain fact and me and many others have written about this for years.
Opening a Corel file in Illustrator or visa versa and expecting the same editing set is simply the act of he inexperienced user.
So Mikes not right when he expects an Adobe editing set for his Adobe file opened in CorelDRAW he's just looking for and apple on a peach tree.