When generating (saving as PDF) out of Corel7, why can't I get the files size down? The file size id huge with the object size scroll set to smallest.
kaymerica said: When generating (saving as PDF) out of Corel7, why can't I get the files size down? The file size id huge with the object size scroll set to smallest.
The file size of the PDF is relative to the setting you choose when Export to PDF (not Save) and/or Publish as PDF. For example, PDF X/3 will create a bigger file than PDF for Web since it will downsample images at 300 dpi on CMYK while PDF for web will downsample at 72 dpi on RGB color mode. But if you need the PDF for print, you need to use high resolution. It's not "good" or "wrong", it's according what you need. For eample, you can choose PDF for Document distribution, then change the settings. On the "Objects" tab you will see that is using JPG with only few compression, increasing he file compression will be produce a smaller file, but take care, since it will reduce the quality. Also, the Bitmaps will be downsampled at 200 dpi, if it's only for see on computer and not for print, you can use 150 dpi instead or even less.
Rajat Jan said:After converting into PDF, you have to type Ctrl+P in PDF then print it as PDF.It will reduce size of PDF.
No, that doesn't change the file size if you are using the same settings than Publish to PDF. Only changes if you use different settings, then it's the same than Publish to PDF. Moreover, the presets of CorelDRAW are the same than Adobe
kaymerica said:I am using another pdf creator program - print function to PDF...I was looking to avoid this step and PDF directly from Corel X7
The only advantadge of use Print to PDF instead Publish to PDF is if you need to use the Imposition tools of the Print Preview. If you don't use it, there's no reason to use an external program for do the same then the main program. There's no difference. I added a shortcut for Publish to PDF and it's faster than print to PDF
I finally upgraded from X5 to X7... I just made a PDF (Publish to PDF) as usual, and yes, the PDF is MUCH larger at 7MB versus 700KB (after a VERY MINOR drawing change). EXACT SAME SETTINGS. And yes, I know exactly how each setting affects the overall final PDF size. Again, I set them all the same as when I published PDFs in X5 no problem. The only thing I can think of and when I get more time, I will check it out, is it may be INCLUDING EVERYTHING outside the artboard also...which X5 has even done in the past depending on what is on what layers and in the workspace etc. always something...worked fine before...why mess with it.
UPDATE:
DELETED EVERYTHING outside the page, publish to PDF, still the same! 7MB file! when it should be much less around 700KB! uggh. SAME EXACT SETTINGS from X5 to X7! : /
simple objects it works fine. (i.e. simple objects with simple solid fill etc) It's when a gradient fill, transparency and/or powerclips are involved.
******* PLEASE DISREGARD THIS TEST. IT'S INCOMPLETE ******* Try this simple test: double click border, add rectangular border object, this will be the powerclip object. create a circle with gradiant, larger than the rectangle powerclip object. place/powerclip the circle you just created inside the rectangular power clip. create some random shapes with gradient fills on top of this powerclipped rectangle object. publish to pdf using X7 (latest update)...and if you have an older version, i.e. X5, X4, open the same file and publish to PDF... the old version will be correct in small file size, the X7 will not and the objects will be rasterized even if the selection is unchecked "complex fills converted to bitmaps) in the PDF settings. you can import these PDFs back into CorelDraw and examine the results...same with Illustrator. The X7 pdf import in Illustrator really goes haywire.... the X5 does not. The problem lies how the X7 PDF publisher is handling powerclips, gradients and transparencies. thank you.
Without having a sample file, this exercise is sort of pointless. How can anyone compare their files to yours?
In any case, the screen shot below is of a letter-size document. The power-clipped gradient is three times as large as the page. There are two more on top of the page. The file is 488k.
ok good it's pointless. I'll create a file tomorrow demonstrating the (2) different file outcomes from X5 and X7... along with PDF settings screen shots of both X5 and X7.... it will be understood then. Can I attach a CDR and PDF file here?
also... I think I forgot to add that a gradient filled object with transparency on top of all this may cause this. i.e. gradient, color fade to alpha.
timd1971 said:Can I attach a CDR and PDF file here?
Yes, you can. Choose "Use rich formatting" and use the Insert/Edit Media. If the files are big, you can upload to a free storge service, such as Wetransfer.com
Ronny Axelsson said:Without testing, I think there may be a logical reason for the increased file size, and you gave me the idea when you mentioned the gradient inside a powerclip. X7 has a new way of creating more sophisticated fountain fills, like oval fills for example. These were not possible in previous versions and I doubt some of them are accepted in the PDF file format. Therefore, Draw's filter has to work around by converting to a bitmap instead. Even though the fill may look like a traditional fountain fill, the mere fact that "Free scale and skew" is ticked, may make the filter convert it to a bitmap. Only guessing here but I think this may be a logical explanation.Try without the fill, or try with an "old standard" fill, and see if it makes any difference.
You said only a guess... and that was a GREAT GUESS. I have messed with this a bit more, because I have to generate PDF on a daily basis with these files. The CULPRIT is in fact what you mentioned. It's the NEW way of X7 creating Fountain fills and transparencies etc. Yes, I did notice that is new and made the objects of questions just basic fills without any oval/elliptical fills or transparency etc. I generated a PDF (same settings) after doing so, and the PDF is small again like it should be. : ) So it's WASN'T the X7 PDF settings that were altered, but the NEW way X7 handles all of this which has as you explain above and in some posts after this. Thank you Ronny "AGAIN" for the solution... (I almost wonder if you work for Corel and helped develop CorelDRAW or something as knowledgeable as you are). At least I know what it is and just have to workaround or fix things to get them the way I need them now after the fact. Thank you all also for trying to help and testing the files. MUCH APPRECIATED. ; )