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Azonz posted on Thu, Apr 15 2010 19:35

I have never really got it straight how to 'install' Type One fonts under Windows, especially when I want to use them with FontNav. Should the pairs be kept together within the same folder? I tend to use multiple sets of folders for other font types to aid me in organizing them within FontNav, and I love FontNav for its ability to make fonts active or inactive.

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St. Albert Alberta Canada
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You may (not) want to know that under Win 7, FontNav does not handle
Type 1 fonts at all -- cannot install them itself; cannot install them
on the fly either. Under Win 7 the only way to install Type 1 fonts is
by Windows itself or under a font manager other than BFN.

I suppose the better news is that under Win 7 64 bit anyway, the system
doesn't seem to care how many fonts you have installed. I recently went
from XP to Win 7 64 and, in order to get anything done at all, had to
hastily activate ALL my extensive font library in addition to what Win-7
had done, so it now lists 1,068 installed fonts (yikes!!) and no adverse
effects! Mix of Type 1, Opentype, TTF and even TTC (collection).
Needless to say I will pure these down over time, but only because the
list is rather lengthy! (going from XP to Win 7, Willy Gates extracts
revenge from those who dared to not use Vista so ALL user installed
fonts are not installed---hence after about the 25th time a font was not
available. on a rush job, I gave up and installed everything!)

I think the PFM and the PFB have to be in the same directory, especially
under Win 7.


Paul McGee St. Albert, Alberta, Canada

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I'm not sure, but, as far as I know, for installing T1 fonts you need Adobe Type Manager software that can manage T1 fonts.

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Wache,
 
Absolutely not. Windows 2000 and higher can install Type 1 fonts directly. If you do install ATM, it will break things.
 
 
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Paul McGee:
so it now lists 1,068 installed fonts (yikes!!) and no adverse
effects!

It sound good.

Best regards

Regards

Michael Cervantes
MC Design Studio

I had better refine the question.

A PFM file is very small and dandy. Double-click it and you can see it in full, for example. The problem for me is where to put PFB files. This is because they were in a different folder in ATM days, and to the best of my understanding they are required to be 'somewhere', but I don't know where. I, like many others, own a king's ransom in Type 1 fonts and I would really like to get it straight and do it properly (and manage them with FontNav while I'm at it).

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Drag the printer font to the the windows font directory.  I never use those damn things anymore I ues open type true type outlines only.

David Milisock

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PFM=printer font metrics. There is no font in this file, just defines the character widths and kerning pairs.
PFB=printer font binary. This is the actual font.
 
Both files should be in the same place.
 
 
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I have installed Type 1 fonts and they are showing in Adobe programs and Microsoft Programs but NOT in CorelDraw 12.

New Windows 7 Pro 64 bit system. CorelDraw 12 installed in Windows XP compatibility.

Installing Bitstream Font Utility made no impact on CorelDraw. Installing Font Expert 10 made no impact on CorelDraw 12.

Installed Type 1 fonts show up in fonts list, but there is no preview and when you try to type with them, the text tool changes to a tiny x.

Have I missed something in the setup/preferences of CorelDraw? Type 1 fonts were working in XP Pro environment on my last computer (however, I had a legacy copy of Adobe Type Manager Deluxe).

I would buy the upgrade to X5 if I knew it would resolve this issue.

Kristi

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Kristi,
 
I'm on Windows 7 (64-bit) and regularly use Type 1 fonts with CorelDRAW X5. CorelDRAW 12 precedes the newer operating systems and is not supported on Windows 7.
 
 
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Hi Foster,

Thanks for taking the time to reply. Could you please expand on your answer slightly. I am assessing upgrading to X5 (as I said to resolve this issue).

Does Corel X5 recognize Type 1 fonts installed through c:\Windows\Fonts without the utilization of any additional apps (such as Bitstream Font Navigator and/or Font Expert)?

Does it make sense to you that other programs that worked on XP can "see" the Type 1 fonts but CorelDraw 12 does not? It seems curious that the fonts appear in the FONT menu of CorelDRaw but don't seem to actually be there.

Thank you,

Kristi

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Incidentally, I tried converting one of my Type 1 fonts to an Open Face Font with AFMtoPFM. Installed the OTF. Same effect as the Type 1 fonts. CorelDRAW "saw" the font but really couldn't use it.

Kristi

I am happy to report that it works perfectly well for me in Windows 7, both 32 and 64-bit. Type 1 fonts will work if both the pfm and pfb are directly installed in Windows\fonts, but that will leave all of them active, which doesn't seem to bother Windows but which will increase the already too-long lists of fonts available in a program like Word.

It is true that both pfm and pfb must be in the same folder, and I have mine in a folder in C:\Users\Public\Public Documents next to the default location of other fonts installed by CorelDraw X5, although they could go in the same folder.

One trick is that you must be running as an administrator for FontNav to work, and depending on how you get to it you may have to right-click on FontNav and Run as Administrator, or it may kick you upstairs by asking permission to make changes. (I presume it must be an 'ordinary' Administrator account to begin with.) Once you have it running, clicking on the 'T' icon (View Fonts by Format) will display 'PostScript Type 1' as one of the options.

You can do a global search for Type 1 fonts on your computer, but it is likely that you already have them collected, although when you first start sorting you should delete the Type 1 fonts (and TrueType where relevant) to give precedence to any installed OpenType fonts of the same name. If you have past collections of CorelDraw fonts this can add up to a lot of unwanted duplication and potential conflicts, but (depending on how far back you go) you won't want to miss fun like Grizzly and Grouch, and all of the Corel fonts and Letraset fonts. Well, not all of them, but a lot of them. From Aachen to Charlemagne (Adobe) or Charlesworth (Corel) onwards, I have a dandy collection, and it includes fonts that are irreplaceable until an OTF version that I can afford comes along.

I apologize for not posting this solution long ago, but I am not generally active in this forum and I had forgotten my having made the post until I got an email notification today.

One suggestion I have for Corel or Bitstream is to make FontNav available as a standalone product at a modest price, as this is a problem that faces all Windows users and I suspect that the market would be sizeable, although an improved version that can preview the more extensive character sets of OpenType (TTF and OTF) would be especially welcome.

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Bitstream Font Navigator and Font Expert are both programs for font management. Neither have any effect on whether a font works or not. They just make it easier to install/uninstall fonts.
 
Yes, Type 1 fonts work in X5 no matter how they are installed. If they work in Windows, they work in CorelDRAW X5.
 
CorelDRAW 12 precedes Windows 7. It is flat out not supported. That means some things don't work and it seems this is one of them. Knowing that it isn't supported, I've never attempted to install it on Windows 7.
 
 
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Azonz,

Thanks for your reply. I spent a couple of hours trying various font management software to see if those would enable Corel to "see" the fonts, but it didn't work. I know this was the case in prior version of Windows as well, but ATM Deluxe worked in that environment to somehow help the Corel apps utilize type 1 fonts.

I didn't want to purchase the upgrade to CorelDRAW x5 if it didn't resolve the font problem in Windows 7. It dawned on me late last night that I could download the trial of X5 and see for myself. I did that and, yes, it certainly does work.

I did discover that CrossFont 6 (by Paul E. Thomson) will create Open Type Fonts from PFB fonts metrics. So, if you have some Type 1 fonts that you want to convert to Open Face, I'd suggest it. [I tried converting the Type 1 fonts I had to OTF and Corel 12 still did not see them.]

Warm regards to you and Foster for your input and willingness to help. I hope this helps others.
Kristi

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