Hi All
I made the BigJump from 9 to X4 some months ago , time to say something about, feelings are really mixted
from one side i loved the new interface, how X4 handles PDF was the great thing for me , awesome feature was for me the export for office option (png power :) ) smart guides helped some, but i really miss ver 9 speed
even for dummy files X4 is a big turtle, i have the feeling of "jumping" graphics (like "lag" in games) tested illustrator CS5 in same machine was EXTREMELY SPEEDER ,damn if i didnt have the Unicode fonts issue i d thrown that turtle away... its hard to say that for the software that i do my job from 1991 but ver 9 was the GOLD version -Damn Corel MAKE A FAST and STABLE programm with only a few features
Really dissapointed blame myself that i didnt started with Mac /illustrator platform...
pap said: I use XP with SP3 (best OS imo) i have give 2GB memory to Corel (i believe is the max can take in 32 bit -say please if i m wrong)
I use XP with SP3 (best OS imo) i have give 2GB memory to Corel (i believe is the max can take in 32 bit -say please if i m wrong)
You can't give more memory to CorelDRAW, as in older versions, the memory is managed by the operating system, and the OS will give the max free ram available, up to 2 gb. The section in the Options menu is no longer valid
RunFlaCruiser said: even for dummy files X4 is a big turtle, Yes. I agree it is a bad thing about the newer version. I could install verion 12 right now and throw twice as many items on the screen. Zooming in and out, and program operation in general would be twice as fast. Same thing with version 9 on an old Windows 98 machine. Why are newer versions slower? I upgraded to X4 for my shop computer for the macro power. When I had version 12 however I could work faster and with more files. pap said:Really dissapointed blame myself that i didnt started with Mac /illustrator platform... What?!? .....Cooo Cooo. ~John [/quote] Years ago, Illustrator was both very slow, and very skeletal in terms of it's feature set. Corel Draw had a lot of features and was extremely fast. But with each update Corel Draw got slower and slower while not really adding a lot in the way of features. Illustrator on the other hand got faster and faster while piling on cool new features. Today, Illustrator is probably a little faster than Corel Draw, but it's featureset might be a little less than Corel Draw. It's hard to say because Corel Draw sort of dabbles in many things while not digging too deeply into them, such as page layout while Illustrator has a better focus on drawing and brushes and such. I can remember a time when I had began to primarily use Illustrator, but Corel Draw was so fast that I would open Corel Draw just to preview fonts! Illustrator was terrible for previewing fonts. Since Corel Draw 3, Corel Draw can barely preview fonts at all.
even for dummy files X4 is a big turtle,
Yes. I agree it is a bad thing about the newer version.
I could install verion 12 right now and throw twice as many items on the screen. Zooming in and out, and program operation in general would be twice as fast. Same thing with version 9 on an old Windows 98 machine. Why are newer versions slower?
I upgraded to X4 for my shop computer for the macro power. When I had version 12 however I could work faster and with more files.
pap said:Really dissapointed blame myself that i didnt started with Mac /illustrator platform...
What?!? .....Cooo Cooo.
~John
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Years ago, Illustrator was both very slow, and very skeletal in terms of it's feature set. Corel Draw had a lot of features and was extremely fast. But with each update Corel Draw got slower and slower while not really adding a lot in the way of features. Illustrator on the other hand got faster and faster while piling on cool new features. Today, Illustrator is probably a little faster than Corel Draw, but it's featureset might be a little less than Corel Draw. It's hard to say because Corel Draw sort of dabbles in many things while not digging too deeply into them, such as page layout while Illustrator has a better focus on drawing and brushes and such.
I can remember a time when I had began to primarily use Illustrator, but Corel Draw was so fast that I would open Corel Draw just to preview fonts! Illustrator was terrible for previewing fonts. Since Corel Draw 3, Corel Draw can barely preview fonts at all.
KuttyJoe said:Illustrator has a better focus on drawing and brushes and such
i m a designer so there is my focus, i wish every moment Corel to have Text fit to path like ILL has, crisp colored object without antialize outlines...i dont say nothing for the 3D and perspective grid of ILL
KuttyJoe said:it's featureset might be a little less than Corel Draw
did u ever imagine an object w multiple outlines, multiple fills, to change weight of outline on the path
Corel is an amateur in front of CS5 , does everything (and coffee maybe :)) but needs to rely on macros to make basic things, drop shadows etc..
When Draw was a cheap solution that was OK.....but for 900+ euros looks like poor answer to ILL
(Dont say me u get a Paint,a presentation etc etc...I NEED a design program, there is poor very poor in frond of ILL)
*ILL stands for ILLUSTRATOR not ILLNESS
Cheers all
pap said:i m a designer so there is my focus, i wish every moment Corel to have Text fit to path like ILL has, crisp colored object without antialize outlines...i dont say nothing for the 3D and perspective grid of ILL
Yeah. It was among the things that I appreciated when I began the transition to mainly Illustrator about a decade ago. Things looked better onscreen.
pap said:did u ever imagine an object w multiple outlines, multiple fills, to change weight of outline on the path
Appearance. Yes, another wonderful feature of Illustrator. That and also Illustrator's effects system is far beyond Corel Draw's. Illustrator is "different" than Corel Draw, but when I consider the overall scope of the two applications, I still think Corel Draw reaches farther and covers more ground within a single application, if only slightly. I obviously can't prove that, but I spent most of the 90's using Corel products, then around 2001 I transitioned to mainly Adobe Illustrator, so I have a good idea of what both applications cover. It's hard to say because they have very different features. So I definitely think it's debatable as to whether Illustrator is as far reaching as Corel Draw. It's worth considering though that Corel Draw goes a great deal farther where dealing with bitmapped images is concerned. Draw also is being used by some as a page layout application. Personally, I would not bother because I use Indesign, and Quark before that. But loooong before that, I created all my multi-page catalogs using just Corel Draw. It crashed and corrupted the entire thing sometimes, but that's a different story. LOL
pap said:Corel is an amateur in front of CS5 , does everything (and coffee maybe :)) but needs to rely on macros to make basic things, drop shadows etc..
Hey, stop trying to take over my role on this forum as the Corel antagonist. LOL I do have to disagree with you. Corel does not need a macro to make a drop shadow. LOL It was doing stuff like that I suppose a decade before Illustrator. A lot of other stuff too. I suppose you don't really know all that much about Corel Draw. I kind of agree with your general feelings, but the specifics are a little off.
Ariel said: Disable LiveText is very useful and also, chech if you have too much saved views (Ctrl+F2) or Color styles (Tools/Color styles) Recently I made the same job on a big file using X5 and CS5 on the same job. Altough in some operations illustrator has more speed, on the global process CorelDRAW X5 was faster. Also, some time ago we do the same job on a Mac with Illustrator CS5 vs PC with CorelDRAW X5, both experienced users, Illustrator open faster but the job was made faster with CorelDRAW.
Disable LiveText is very useful and also, chech if you have too much saved views (Ctrl+F2) or Color styles (Tools/Color styles)
Recently I made the same job on a big file using X5 and CS5 on the same job. Altough in some operations illustrator has more speed, on the global process CorelDRAW X5 was faster. Also, some time ago we do the same job on a Mac with Illustrator CS5 vs PC with CorelDRAW X5, both experienced users, Illustrator open faster but the job was made faster with CorelDRAW.
I used to run a Mac with windows XP or Vista in Boot Camp. I have a lot of programs/plugins, etc which are cross platform. In every single instance, they ran faster under Windows than under OS X, on the very same Mac computer. The Mac always feels slower to me although it also feels smoother when just getting around the desktop. Windows is kind of klunky, but once you get inside an application, it flies!