This happens only occasionally. I have a file open in PP5. I resample the image -- reduce the physical size from, in this case, 53 inches to 8 inches high, and increase resolution from 72 to 300 dpi, with the resulting file size smaller than the original. I save the file, then import into my layout in Coreldraw. The imported file is back to 72 dpi and the physical size is huge. I reopen the file in PP, resample again, and resave under a new file name. Same problem occurs when I import into Draw. Of course, I can physically shrink the file to 3 inches high and the resulting dpi will be 300.
Has this happened to anyone else?
Hi Mike/Andrew,
resampling works fine in X5 for me and has done so in every version I have ever used (version 7 through to X5). After you have resampled the image do you ever look at document properties to see if the image did resample? What I am getting at here is that if you check and it confirms the new (smaller) size then it is extremely unlikely that PP will then undo that resample, or revert back to the saved image when you go to save it.
When you resample I take it you do NOT have the "Maintain Original Size" checkbox ticked?
Best regards,
Brian said: What I am getting at here is that if you check and it confirms the new (smaller) size then it is extremely unlikely that PP will then undo that resample, or revert back to the saved image when you go to save it. When you resample I take it you do NOT have the "Maintain Original Size" checkbox ticked?
What I am getting at here is that if you check and it confirms the new (smaller) size then it is extremely unlikely that PP will then undo that resample, or revert back to the saved image when you go to save it.
Actually in my examples I did have that box checked. Did you see the thread I linked above? There are screenshots. Further down there is even a link to a jpg to try it out on.
Basic process is this (not saying it's best practice, but I do think it should work):
Open the image. It's about 17x13 @ 180 dpi.
So resample to get it to print about 4x5 by changing dpi to 600 w/ maintain original size checked.
Save this & close. PP even shows the 600dpi on the export dialog which it makes you use to save.
Now open it in PP again & look at the resample dialog... it shows 180dpi.
Is that not odd? I think it is. Open it in IfFan & check file info... IrFan says it's 600 dpi, but PP still shows it as 180. Very odd.
I never check Maintain Original Size. I am downsizing my camera's images but up-rezzing them for print. IrfanView in this case reports what PP reports. I put together an html page that shows screen captures of what I am doing and the results with PP and IrfanView...
http://boldcopy.com/resample/
Hi Mike,
on your linked site you said:
This proves that the file retains dpi info but NOT physical size info, despite changing both valuesand overwriting the file. WEIRD.
Looking at your screen captures - Photo-Paint X5 is downsampling the image as intended, but it is not retaining the correct (amended) dpi info upon save; it is however retaining the correct pixel count. As you stated, this effectively means the physical 'print' size is not being retained.
This is definitely not as intended and not how it works on my system. I too shoot with an EOS camera and I process my RAW images to save at 300dpi. I often resample to 4" x 6" at 200dpi for printing on a desktop inkjet and save under a new name. When I reopen the images they always show the correct details (4" x 6" @ 200dpi / 800px x 1200px). Most of the the time I reduce and save a copy at 4" x 6" at 300dpi, and these values also always 'stick'. I am at a loss as to why things are not working on your system; you appear to be doing everything correctly.
Hey, just one thought! Do you have Service Pack 1 installed? I could be wrong, but I have a feeling there was an issue with the original release of Photo-Paint X5 incorrectly reading or maintaining dpi values in files. People were processing RAW files at, say 180dpi, and the image would open in PPX5 at 72dpi. I am pretty sure I had the same issue and then SP1 fixed this. I hope I am not imagining this.
Brian,
I've been having this discussion with various folks since at least X3. I could probably find my old threads in the NNTP groups if they go back far enough. I remember discussing this with "Mr. Bill" ages ago.
It really looks to me like it has to do with EXIF or maybe some other Metadata. The fact that copying to clipboard & pasting as new 'fixes' the issue kind of points to that as well.
And I've got SP1 for sure.
Thanks for checking into it.
Hey, Brian.
You are correct -- and perhaps I misstated it -- that the file is not retaining the "amended" dpi info. What I attempted to say is that it retains the "original" dpi info.
Besides the SP1 fix (and no, I have not updated to SP1), I noticed you are shooting RAW images. I would imagine the coding in those files is substantially different than shooting in JPG mode. That is possibly why you don't have the same issue. Not sure.