Hello forum,
I am dealing with a pamphlet right now and I have been having a hard time with text styles namely to get the text to fit on a baseline grid. The grid is 12 points and so I have designed the styles so that all line spacing properties are multiples of 6, so that I can get in-between spacings between headings, and then just throw in a line with no text, styled with 6 points specified before and after paragraph as well as line height.
Now, this sounds good in theory, but in practice it is a lot harder. I found out after many trial and errors, that the character size also counts and overrides the line height which makes the whole thing of creating text styles a total guesswork.
For example, the main text is Sabon 10 pt with 12/12/12 (berore, after, line height). Now I want to add a paragraph heading with Myriad and I make it 10,5 bold, to make it stand out a bit, with the same line spacing. Now this will wreck the whole thing so that lines in different columns don't line up because the text will deviate from the baseline grid.
When I change text size of the paragraph heading to 9,5 pt it suddenly behaves and fits in. Now, that is good, but I don't think text styles should behave like that, they should respect the line height and if the text is too big, the letters on different lines should just overlap.
Now when the text size matters and overrides line height (at least in paragraph text) it makes the whole thing unnecessary complicated and difficult. I hope you can look into this Corel.
Maybe I'm not understand, but look at this...
Correct, you do not understand The problem arises when you try to add something more than just plain paragraph text. Read my entry again.
Sancho said: Oh. I see. Yep, DRAW have this problem, and a lot of other with fonts and a lot of text. Just DRAW is not the best App for cool layout. I'm use InDesign, and haven't any problems with text :)
Oh. I see. Yep, DRAW have this problem, and a lot of other with fonts and a lot of text.
Just DRAW is not the best App for cool layout. I'm use InDesign, and haven't any problems with text :)
Yes, but this is simple, basic stuff. I'm not laying out a newspaper. If this works, Draw would be som much easier to use. Of course, I now know the limitations and can act accordingly.
I don't know how it works in X5 but in X4 I didn't notice that problem.
Even when I change font type, size etc, lines stays still the same, regardless what I do with fonts. If I increase font it WILL overlap (damn confusing to select anything than).
I can't reproduce your problem...
So, it must be an X5 problem then. But I doubt that they have changed anything with styles.
Anyway, this thing is rather subltle, you migth notice it when you are doing actual work.
When I am done with my pamphlet I might find the time to do some screenshots. But I urge you to set a document up and experiment with trying to get things to line up on a baseline grid. Try several heading levels too and make them to run even with the baseline grid.
Lars Forslin said: Anyway, this thing is rather subltle, you migth notice it when you are doing actual work.
Could be. I tried to repeat your settings and what you described but everything worked as should. You can be right about that - maybe if I'm working with entire text that will occur.
Btw, one question - from where you got text? If you paste it from Word than your problem lays there and not in Corel... Word can mess things up in text...
When I paste the text, I always discard fonts and formatting in the paste dialog.
I'll be back with some screenshots of what's actually happening.
Doesn't matter. Word's font manipulation is not the same as Corel's. Text still keeps some preferences even if you discard formatting. Word predefines text in some way that, when you copy/paste it, it still keeps some settings regardless what you do in Corel.
Sometimes can help if you first, after copy it from word, past it to notepad. He can't keep almost anything. Than copy it from there. It's better than write everything from scratch in Corel...
At least you can try that...
wache, look at this animated gif
This is text with reset all other styles
...and how it in InDesign
Sancho said: wache, look at this animated gif This is text with reset all other styles
Than it has to be X5.
In X4, at least at my comp it's looks like this:
Sancho, this illustrates my problem. So how did you do that? Is it a Word problem or is it a Draw problem?
If text isn't washed entirely in the Paste text dialog, we must know that. But that should equal Edit/Paste special/Text, shouldn't it?