I write this message for all corel users. In my company i use corel and i use creative suite cs5 for one year and creative CC for one month. Adobe have a grate products but i think there are a lot of programs and one persone can't use all. I find my corel x4 more quickley than illustrator/indesign cc 64 bit. I spend one day for paginate eight pages with illustrator and three hours with Corel. I studies many hours indesign and illustrator but i think almost people have requirement that adobe promotes, it's only a business move. I hope Corel continue to developer this software with this policy and best each distribution. A good graphic using adobe but does not have the ideas in head will never make big plans!!
Tomasi Matttia said:I hope Corel continue to developer this software with this policy and best each distribution.
I use CDR from 2008 and in my opinion as i saw, Corel not invest in cdr developing much. From version x4 i saw some changes ,but not big changes. Only the character formating and the color management are changed, in rest just modified. Export and pdf problems appears in x6 like in x4, no free video tutorials to understand color management in x5, x6 ,CorelDraw masters not handle professional the serious problems like eps exporting or pdf publishing, or the bugs ,they reject all or handle indifferent ,they do not like the criticism :) etc... In graphic design industry (professional print companys) as i saw Adobe products are more preferably.
CorelDraw!! Hands down is the fastest. Adobe is like a ferari. Parts are expensive and you get what you get. Corel is like my mustang. You can throw parts at it and tweak it to beat any ferari out there. You do have to have both though. Illustrator users take note. You don't have to use layers for every freakin shape you make.
x4 said:not handle professional the serious problems like eps exporting or pdf publishing, or the bugs
I export EPS and PDF files daily and haven't had a problem in years.
As for bugs, I find them to be very responsive.
Both are just tools. I happen to like Corel's suite of tools better for the price. Although, if both were the same price I'd still stick with Draw over Illustrator.
Also, I wouldn't want a video tutorial on color management, I prefer written documentation on things like that.
x4 said:,CorelDraw masters not handle professional the serious problems like eps exporting or pdf publishing, or the bugs ,they reject all or handle indifferent ,they do not like the criticism
Wait, I know most of them personally for many years. Yes they are passionate about Corel understandably but lets not dis credit their professionalism or that they do not take issues seriously. Low blow, not right. Nobody likes criticism unless it is straight forward and impersonal. Most of what I see is tainted by personal attack. These folks only help and for free! They get paid nothing to help strangers. I tip my hat to these masters, all of them.
x4 said: In graphic design industry (professional print companys) as i saw Adobe products are more preferably.
I agree and only because that is what is taught in the schools. I work with major agencies for years, yes they use Above stuff because that is what they were told to use by folks whom know less than them. I have been using CorelDraw non stop since v6 (not x6) strictly professionally. I also have all the cs stuff here as well.I have been beta testing the suite ongoing since v8. You have no idea how hard Corel developers, testers and masters work to get stuff right. I see all the issues posted here reported to the proper bug bases. I do not know of any complex software that is bug free, NONE. Just look at win8 to date. I can tell you, you fix this and it breaks that and you have no idea till it shows it ugly head.
We do web development (lots of complex interactive stuff), print jobs and full marketing services to include broadcast video. Overall AI does not come close to Draw without hundreds of dollars of third party plug ins. It does some stuff that Draw does not but If I had to loose one I kiss AI goodby. Actually since it went to the cloud I am done with them.
How much you pay for cs? How much you pay for CorelDraw suite? How much extra clip, fonts, images, etc. do you get with cs? To me the fonts and extras in the suite alone is worth the price.
Perhaps a case of "bug rage"?
x4 said:Corel not invest in cdr developing much.
Ok, how much have they invested, real numbers please?
What factual information is your opinion based upon?
Not being mean, just real.
x4 said:CorelDraw masters not handle professional the serious problems like eps exporting or pdf publishing, or the bugs ,they reject all or handle indifferent ,they do not like the criticism :)
Well, I work for the printing industry since 1980,and I work on PrePress since 1998, on Europe and America, so I believe I had a bit of experience, On my job, I must produce several PDF files every day, and I must output files for a company with high quality level (ISO standards) and we produce a lot of files each day. I'm quite sure that I have enough professional experience on the use of PDF files, and of course other programs, including Acrobat with Enfocus Pitstop, Quite Imposing, Preps, QuarkXPress, and of course Adobe software such as Indesign, Photoshop or Illustrator.
Therefore, I consider totally unfair and unfounded your comment. Of course we accept criticism, but we can not accept to doubt our experience or our honesty to answer. For example, I don't use EPS, because I don't need it. I used EPS for send files to a Roland Plotter some years ago, Fotunately, each Master has a different work and experience area, not all do the same jobs.
Of course, we like criticism, new ideas, suggestions, etc, I've been asked for ideas for each release (http://community.coreldraw.com/forums/p/21747/96521.aspx#96521 - http://community.coreldraw.com/forums/t/32797.aspx), and several suggestions were included; http://community.coreldraw.com/forums/t/21747.aspx?PageIndex=66
And also, we know still there're bugs and errors. We fought them every day, and try to find solutions to help users. All we has a lot of request for improvements or changes, these changes are not in our self personal gain, but to improve the program and make it useful to all. If the program has an error, all we has the same problem. ie in the initial release of X6 you can't copy/paste tet from Desktop layer to other layer, All we had the same problem, and was solved on X6.1 Reject? Indifferent? We spend several hours a week to find errors, inform, report and try to find solutions to problems and errors.
Yes, perhaps between X3 and X4 there was only few changes (the entire interface, for example) and all we agree that we need more tools, more effects and more changes