Hi Everybody,
Is this a serious problem or a bug.
Many mid to high level cameras do not embed a profile. They simply give the name of the color space in the EXIF data -- usually either sRGB or Adobe RGB. For Adobe RGB, that saves bout 500 Kb.
So here's the "problem" or "bug".
CDGS has chosen to ignore the EXIF data both on both OPEN and SAVE.
Before I realized what was happening, I would occasionally take a shot in Adobe RGB if the scene looked colorful. It always came out looking a lot duller on the monitor.No kidding. Photopaint assumed that it was in sRGB. Photopaint never realized that the shot was in Adobe RGB.
I still avoid taking photos in Adobe RGB. I'm not about to carry a notebook with me to record the color space of each shot.Photopaint should get its act together on EXIF data.
Then again, crashes and missing CPT thumbnails are a much bigger issue, I have to use CDGS X6. I'll probably pass on CDGS X8. Who needs the aggravation for almost nothing in return.
Phil
I'm not there to see your camera so I do not know but I've never seen a camera that would allow captures in more that 1 color space that would not embed profiles. I'm betting your camera embeds profiles. In a color managed process embedding profiles is a must. Adobe RGB is 560 bytes not 500kb.
EXIF data is not the place to embed a profile as image editors would not look there to see it.
Depending on your default CM settings once the image is opened it may already be too late.
Photo-PAINT under the file menu document settings shows EXIF data for a JPG I opened.
After reading up on this EXIF data I want it stripped form my images.
Hi David,
Well, explain these two different warnings from Photopaint and Photoshop. (The color management default settings were identical.)
I'm not interested in the EXIF data either.So what ??A good many photographers want to see it. The PSP photography group specifically asks that it be included. Roy has repeatedly asked for it.
Why does CDGS go out of its way to strip it out of the file. The reasons for stripping it out given by Tony Severenook are incomprehensible.Are you pushing to keep it removed just because you and I don't use it.Phil
Wow you do get it. I don't care and if I needed EXIF I'd use Paintshop Pro it works flawlessly. If the tens of thousands who want EXIF to work in PP scream about it they'll make it work.
David Milisock said:If the tens of thousands who want EXIF to work in PP scream about it they'll make it work.
I wish they would. I've been screaming about it since at least X3. It seems like any requests for improvements to PP just get ignored. There are post on this forum asking for this going back to at least 2008.
EXIF (and IPTC and GeoLocation - all metadata) data should have an option to save with JPG images on Save or Export, the same as embedding colour profiles.
I did a litlle test with a JPG file downloaded direct from camera: Both Corel PhotoPaint and Photoshop reads similar EXIF info
It reads it but when you save as or edit the file and save it's lost. I believe.
I've just done a test with a JPG image exported directly from Lightroom from my Nikon D7100 (I only ever shoot RAW) and then saving and exporting the image from PPX7.
I've examined the EXIF metadata in each different type of save/export using ExifToolGUI.
So Save, Save as... and Export all seem to keep the same amount of metadata from the original (and Export to Web if Embed color profile is On).
Here's a side-by-side comparison between the original JPGs metadata (on the right) and the PPX7 Save version (on the left). Sorry for the large PNG.
The yellow highlights show changed data (mainly time stamps)
The light green highlights on the right show where data is missing on the left.
The light red highlights on the left show where data is missing on the right.
The dark green highlights are for data that has been kept, but moved to a different position.
In older versions of PP I seem to remember that geo location data was lost when saving. This seems to be OK now.
For me the most important section that still gets deleted is the IPTC data, which includes my copyright information, and any title, tag or caption that I've added (ObjectName,Keywords and Caption-Abstract). This information is essential for image meta searches and is used extensively by picture libraries.
Anyone who want to see the files can download this 5MB ZIP from my server. It contains the saved/exported images and the EXIF metadata extracted as text files.
http://reeddesign.co.uk/temp/CorelPP-EXIFmetadata.zip
Thanks Roy, as always a quality job.
BTW I hope you get the weather so you can fly a kite!
Luck to you dude! Clear skies and fair breezes.
Hi Mike Yes, those sections are added by Lightroom. I've saved a JPG from my camera to see whether it adds the copyright info to the IPTC metadata, but it doesn't. It adds it to a section headed IFD0 which is part of the EXIF metadata. If you add tags or rating to an image from Windows Explorer this is the section where those things are recorded.
The copyright info is also added by LR to the IPTC metadata.