Hi,
Using the Object Manager is a pain!
I wish to click on and item and immediately it will zoom to that object and group it then I want to rename the object.
Please implement this on the present upgrade for X7.
Thanks
Phil1923 said:Hi Ariel, Ariel said, "-- If you use Photoshop, each object is a layer--". Er -- ah -- did you forget that PhotoPaint is identical. PhotoPaint just changed the name "layer" to "object".Phil
Thanks, Phil, I believe that i mentioned it but maybe I was not clear:
Ariel said:Not really. If you use Photoshop, each object is a layer, automatically. And that's right. You can group layers, merge layers, etc but the main concept is to treat each object as a layer. I it's not good or bad, just it's the way that the program works. And PhotoPaint and others have similar concept
Ariel said:And PhotoPaint and others have similar concept.
Jeff Harrison said: Ariel And PhotoPaint and others have similar concept. A thing I like about Photo-PAINT over PS is that it's easy to select something directly that doesn't span the whole document. Objects in PP can sometimes be a layer, but don't always have to be. This is more flexible and user friendly.
Ariel And PhotoPaint and others have similar concept.
A thing I like about Photo-PAINT over PS is that it's easy to select something directly that doesn't span the whole document. Objects in PP can sometimes be a layer, but don't always have to be. This is more flexible and user friendly.
There are two options on the toolbar in Photoshop that allows you to treat layers as "objects" the same as in Photo-Paint. One is called "auto select", the other is called "Show Transform Controls". If you check both, there's no difference between Photoshop and Photo-Paint in how layers/objects are selected. I think these options were added to Photoshop more than 10 years ago.
Also, your concept of a layer/object is incorrect. An object/layer are identical in both programs. What's confusing you is merely the way that they are selected. Notice the two attachments. This is the same document opened in both programs. If you turn off the two Photoshop options, you can still select objects/layers by Control clicking on them. Turn the options on, and you can select layers/objects by clicking on them, without using Control, and you won't see the selection handles. Of course, pros don't use the selection handles. I even hide them much of the time in Illustrator. I prefer the very clean look of working without the clutter of anchor points, visible paths, and selection handles, as much as possible.
Your post is one of the reasons I tell most people that they don't need Photoshop of really any Adobe products. Image editing for me is either simple for sign work and high end color correcting for (mostly) print in Europe so I have no use for it.
David Milisock said: Your post is one of the reasons I tell most people that they don't need Photoshop of really any Adobe products. Image editing for me is either simple for sign work and high end color correcting for (mostly) print in Europe so I have no use for it.
I think you just stated plainly that you know what most people need. I don't think you will retract it either.
KuttyJoe said: I don't think you will retract it either.
Of course not I'm seeing 30 to 50 jobs a day and none of the image files require any features you can't get in Photo-PAINT, as far as general graphics go the Adobe mind set has been outdated for over a decade. The only thing I ever see that Adobe is useful for is multi-page documents and that's a VERY SMALL part of the graphic work today.
Web work as far as I can tell can be done with free image editors, the largest web hosting company I know of uses PaintShop and as I said many uses free image editors.
Many companies just RIP Adobe PDF files into Photoshop to avoid the many problems with Adobe files and now with the digital front ends that come with most RIPs you don't even need Photoshop for that at all, you just open the PDF save it as a TIF and RIP the file.
I'm into making a profit and unfortunately Adobe sucks the life out of my effort.
Photoshop certainly has the tool set and the marketing, that's a fact, also the highest cost with no increase in quality at output.
With that said I go from experience and what that brings to the table is 165 image files since Tuesday and 40 years in graphics. I estimate that 98% of the images I receive can be achieved in PaintShop Pro and in the case of the sRGB work most free image editors. I have an advantage in that in many cases I get to see the original image as well as the file for output.
Which is why I say that for most users in the professional world Corel Photo-PAINT will more than suffice.
Photo-PAINT has the core technology required to edit professional images, N color space handling, LAB, CMYK, RGB, ICC Compliance, masking, object management, cloning, the best display for quality editing in the market. Specialized tools for general graphics like a quick image perspective for sign mockups one example, I'm sure others will chastise me for my short list.
It also has in combination with this incomplete lost of features one more feature and that is IT'S FREE.
Photoshop has more features, many that I and most users have no use for and I also have no use for the HIGH COST.
As far as your question about CorelDRAW I have to say it's not just the CorelDRAW dialogs, it's the entire suite. The dialogs are significantly more intuitive than the competition but the quality, image editing, page layout, large page size and the ability to handle the widest range of graphics needs from a postage stamp to a 150' graphic puts it well ahead of the rest.
The best example I can give is one that uses work we regularly do and that's graphics over 250" that are to be viewed at close range and contains small vectors and type.
The only Adobe solution requires that you use PS, AI, and ID. The problem starts with the use of transparency from layered PSD, AI AND ID files specifically if the transparency overlaps. To output these file attributes with the highest quality with Adobe products requires a complete rebuild sometimes taking many hours, if not days. Mostly there will be a compromise in quality and they just RIP the PDF to a raster and live with the jaggy vectors and small type.
The same scenario in the CorelDRAW Graphics Suite simply allows for all flattening of transparency manually as well as all image editing via a page layout image editing interface with the highest quality output in a few minutes in the suite.
It's a simple formula, highest quality, quickest performance, lowest cost. It's a capitalist concept, one I approve of.