Hi,
Using the Object Manager is a pain!
I wish to click on and item and immediately it will zoom to that object and group it then I want to rename the object.
Please implement this on the present upgrade for X7.
Thanks
Ariel said:Really, there's no need to modify or create shortcuts: hold Alt and select an object below.
"holding Alt" is what's known as a key "modifier". My comment was about using key modifiers vs object manager. Alt is one of those key modifiers. And suggested that using key modifiers was a faster way of accessing objects than digging into the object manager. I did not say that it was or wasn't. I'm asking the question and saying that so far, I believe that key modifiers allow for a faster workflow. But I see you're talking about how people "like" to work so there's probably little reason to go on with this discussion with your lack of logical reasoning. Only logic matters and what a person likes to do does not mean that it makes them faster or that it is easier.
KuttyJoe said:"holding Alt" is what's known as a key "modifier". My comment was about using key modifiers vs object manager. Alt is one of those key modifiers.
Sorry, I misunderstand you, therefore, but both have the same idea
KuttyJoe said: Myron ust seems that because design schools teach adobe most are taught that you have to use multi layers. You guys have the craziest statements. All of you have a bone to pick not just with Adobe, but also with people who use Adobe software. Not only do Adobe users not know what they're doing, but even the schools that teach them. LOL
Myron ust seems that because design schools teach adobe most are taught that you have to use multi layers.
You guys have the craziest statements. All of you have a bone to pick not just with Adobe, but also with people who use Adobe software. Not only do Adobe users not know what they're doing, but even the schools that teach them. LOL
Not really. If you use Photoshop, each object is a layer, automatically. And that's right. You can group layers, merge layers, etc but the main concept is to treat each object as a layer. I it's not good or bad, just it's the way that the program works. And PhotoPaint and others have similar concept. But some users want to use the same Photoshop layers with CorelDRAW, and that's wrong since both programs works different. Even Illustrator is different than Photoshop, relative to the Layers. I notice several files where each object is places on a separate layer on CorelDRAW, and this is a conceptual error, but I hear more than one time: "I want to work like Photoshop". but since both programs are different, the best way is to use each program in the right way.
Phil1923 said:Hi Ariel, Ariel said, "-- If you use Photoshop, each object is a layer--". Er -- ah -- did you forget that PhotoPaint is identical. PhotoPaint just changed the name "layer" to "object".Phil
Thanks, Phil, I believe that i mentioned it but maybe I was not clear:
Ariel said:Not really. If you use Photoshop, each object is a layer, automatically. And that's right. You can group layers, merge layers, etc but the main concept is to treat each object as a layer. I it's not good or bad, just it's the way that the program works. And PhotoPaint and others have similar concept
Ariel said:And PhotoPaint and others have similar concept.
Jeff Harrison said: Ariel And PhotoPaint and others have similar concept. A thing I like about Photo-PAINT over PS is that it's easy to select something directly that doesn't span the whole document. Objects in PP can sometimes be a layer, but don't always have to be. This is more flexible and user friendly.
Ariel And PhotoPaint and others have similar concept.
A thing I like about Photo-PAINT over PS is that it's easy to select something directly that doesn't span the whole document. Objects in PP can sometimes be a layer, but don't always have to be. This is more flexible and user friendly.
There are two options on the toolbar in Photoshop that allows you to treat layers as "objects" the same as in Photo-Paint. One is called "auto select", the other is called "Show Transform Controls". If you check both, there's no difference between Photoshop and Photo-Paint in how layers/objects are selected. I think these options were added to Photoshop more than 10 years ago.
Also, your concept of a layer/object is incorrect. An object/layer are identical in both programs. What's confusing you is merely the way that they are selected. Notice the two attachments. This is the same document opened in both programs. If you turn off the two Photoshop options, you can still select objects/layers by Control clicking on them. Turn the options on, and you can select layers/objects by clicking on them, without using Control, and you won't see the selection handles. Of course, pros don't use the selection handles. I even hide them much of the time in Illustrator. I prefer the very clean look of working without the clutter of anchor points, visible paths, and selection handles, as much as possible.
Your post is one of the reasons I tell most people that they don't need Photoshop of really any Adobe products. Image editing for me is either simple for sign work and high end color correcting for (mostly) print in Europe so I have no use for it.
David Milisock said: Your post is one of the reasons I tell most people that they don't need Photoshop of really any Adobe products. Image editing for me is either simple for sign work and high end color correcting for (mostly) print in Europe so I have no use for it.
I think you just stated plainly that you know what most people need. I don't think you will retract it either.
KuttyJoe said: I don't think you will retract it either.
Of course not I'm seeing 30 to 50 jobs a day and none of the image files require any features you can't get in Photo-PAINT, as far as general graphics go the Adobe mind set has been outdated for over a decade. The only thing I ever see that Adobe is useful for is multi-page documents and that's a VERY SMALL part of the graphic work today.
Web work as far as I can tell can be done with free image editors, the largest web hosting company I know of uses PaintShop and as I said many uses free image editors.
Many companies just RIP Adobe PDF files into Photoshop to avoid the many problems with Adobe files and now with the digital front ends that come with most RIPs you don't even need Photoshop for that at all, you just open the PDF save it as a TIF and RIP the file.
I'm into making a profit and unfortunately Adobe sucks the life out of my effort.