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I was using X3 previously. Never had a siginificant problem there. But now about 50% of the time my objects arn't combining or trimming properly. Reversing the curve direction worked, although it's a REAL pain in the butt, not to mention that I never had to do it before. I did however export everything as .EPS and reimported it and it combined fine then. I am guessing that something in the .EPS filter corrected the issue. Still though, this is a HUGE issue for me. I would hate to think that to merely combine some objects that I will have to export and import them.

This has cured a long frustrating problem for me in X3.

Reverse curve direction to combine works great.

Thanks a whole lot!!

God Bless!!

This old thread explains exactly what I'm dealing with now.   I'm trying to make the transition from Illustrator back to CorelDraw, but this problem seems impossible to solve.  CorelDraw X6 is failing to trim the files I'm throwing at it 100% of the time.  Even Corel's own clipart.  Every vector program is failing 100% of the time.  Only Illustrator succeeds and it is successful, 100% of the time.  Why is Illustrator so perfect at this while all other programs fail?  Why has Corel still not sorted this out?  This kind of thing should be driving people crazy.  Is there a secret to trimming that is not obvious?

KuttyJoe said:

This old thread explains exactly what I'm dealing with now.   I'm trying to make the transition from Illustrator back to CorelDraw, but this problem seems impossible to solve.  CorelDraw X6 is failing to trim the files I'm throwing at it 100% of the time.  Even Corel's own clipart.  Every vector program is failing 100% of the time.  Only Illustrator succeeds and it is successful, 100% of the time.  Why is Illustrator so perfect at this while all other programs fail?  Why has Corel still not sorted this out?  This kind of thing should be driving people crazy.  Is there a secret to trimming that is not obvious?

Hi.

Can you put some example files to test? Did you try intersecting to see if it performs any different?

~John

I've attached a file from Corel's clipart collection.  

Let me add some information.

1.  It doesn't matter what file I choose.  Every file fails whether they're from Corel's on clipart or random eps files.  They all fail to trim, or intersect simplify. I got this particular file to just about work.  When I reversed the path, it trimmed, but one of the wings on the bird vanished.  I copied and pasted it directly into Illustrator and it trimmed perfectly in a 10th of a second.

2. Since posting earlier I found that if I choose the path editing tool, then choose to reverse the path I have better success, but still not perfect.

3.  I tried intersecting and I also tried  simplify.  Everything fails.

4. After attempting to trim, intersect, or simplify, when I pressed undo on some files, it went on for like 1 - 2 minutes doing something.  I don't know what.  I could see what looked like something "running" around all the anchor points over and over again.  Instead of instantly doing an undo, it went on like that for over a minute.  I thought it had crashed at first but I just let it go and finally it finished whatever it was that it was doing.  The path operation happens reasonably quickly, but pressing undo after it fails so I can try again does something very strange and for a long time.

5.  I went through the trouble of converting all the outlines to objects in this file so you could easily attempt to trim it, but that is another sore spot for CorelDraw.  In Illustrator, you open a file like this, select all, then do a single command to convert all the outlines to objects, then another single command to trim it all out.  It takes 1.5 seconds or less and always works.  CorelDraw doesn't allow you to simply select all.  If you select a shape with an outline and another shape without an outline together, the option to convert the outline is grayed out.  This is generally how things are in Draw.  Only objects with like characteristics can have operations performed on them.  For example live text selected together with objects.  In Illustrator you can perform operations meant for text even if you've selected regular objects together with the text.  Or you can select objects with outlines together with objects without outlines, then do the command to convert outlines to solids and it works.  Otherwise, you'd have to carefully find all shapes that have outlines to perform the operation.  That's what I'm doing now in CorelDraw, with the help of the "select same" macro.

KuttyJoe said:

I've attached a file from Corel's clipart collection.  

1.  It doesn't matter what file I choose.  Every file fails whether they're from Corel's on clipart or random eps files.  They all fail to trim, or intersect simplify. I got this particular file to just about work.  When I reversed the path, it trimmed, but one of the wings on the bird vanished.  I copied and pasted it directly into Illustrator and it trimmed perfectly in a 10th of a second.

Here is an infographic that may help you out......

Hi.

I see it working as expected on my end. I've never had a problem with trim or intersect. Perhaps it is failing on items with certain effects only.

I also never needed to use the other commands like Simplify. You can do everything needed with Trim, Weld, and Intersect.

Oh, if you want to trim multiple items as one shape then group it. Then ungroup after your done .

~John

See video:

Mike in Canada said:

Here is an infographic that may help you out......

Nice!

RunFlaCruiser said:

Here is an infographic that may help you out......

Nice!

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I would rather do videos like you, but my computer is soooooo slow and after watching how fast your computer is with those efex,  is just embarrassing! Thats why me do infographic.

Nice video btw.

 

Simplify appears to have worked, but it hasn't.  the starting result is different than the end result.  If you look at the black shapes around the tail feathers, they should be complete unbroken circles but your result shows sort of half circles.  It's still a better result than I'm getting but still not working.

I can't get trim to work, even if I use an extra shape the way you're doing.  Using the extra shape is not my intention.  My intention is to simply select the bird and press "trim".  The overlapping shapes should simply cut each other out and leave nothing overlapping anything else.  Intersect would do the same thing if not using the extra square shape.

It didn't work.  Notice in the video when you start pulling the black lines off the wings, you have solid green beneath the black.  The black should have knocked a hole right through the green.  The demonstration above looks as if "simplify" has worked but it has also failed.  The black shapes around the tail feathers should be complete rounded shapes but instead they look like half circles.  The end result is different looking than the original art.  It's better than the result I'm getting, but inconsistent at best.

I remember occasionally having this kind of problem in Draw, but now is different.  It's failing on everything but the simplest stuff.  If I select two shapes out of the bird and press trim, it will work.  If I select the entire bird and press trim, it fails.  After reversing path direction, it still fails though not in the same way.