Hello forum,
I am dealing with a pamphlet right now and I have been having a hard time with text styles namely to get the text to fit on a baseline grid. The grid is 12 points and so I have designed the styles so that all line spacing properties are multiples of 6, so that I can get in-between spacings between headings, and then just throw in a line with no text, styled with 6 points specified before and after paragraph as well as line height.
Now, this sounds good in theory, but in practice it is a lot harder. I found out after many trial and errors, that the character size also counts and overrides the line height which makes the whole thing of creating text styles a total guesswork.
For example, the main text is Sabon 10 pt with 12/12/12 (berore, after, line height). Now I want to add a paragraph heading with Myriad and I make it 10,5 bold, to make it stand out a bit, with the same line spacing. Now this will wreck the whole thing so that lines in different columns don't line up because the text will deviate from the baseline grid.
When I change text size of the paragraph heading to 9,5 pt it suddenly behaves and fits in. Now, that is good, but I don't think text styles should behave like that, they should respect the line height and if the text is too big, the letters on different lines should just overlap.
Now when the text size matters and overrides line height (at least in paragraph text) it makes the whole thing unnecessary complicated and difficult. I hope you can look into this Corel.
Maybe I'm not understand, but look at this...
Correct, you do not understand The problem arises when you try to add something more than just plain paragraph text. Read my entry again.
When I paste the text, I always discard fonts and formatting in the paste dialog.
I'll be back with some screenshots of what's actually happening.
Doesn't matter. Word's font manipulation is not the same as Corel's. Text still keeps some preferences even if you discard formatting. Word predefines text in some way that, when you copy/paste it, it still keeps some settings regardless what you do in Corel.
Sometimes can help if you first, after copy it from word, past it to notepad. He can't keep almost anything. Than copy it from there. It's better than write everything from scratch in Corel...
At least you can try that...
wache, look at this animated gif
This is text with reset all other styles
Sancho said: wache, look at this animated gif This is text with reset all other styles
Than it has to be X5.
In X4, at least at my comp it's looks like this:
wache said: wache, look at this animated gif This is text with reset all other styles
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Well, I can do this in X5 too. This is not really what it is about. This is just changing a few words in a text with a style applied to. It is when you define several styles and try to get them to line up on the baseline grid, it gets complicated and not logical.
Hi Lars,
are you sure this has anything to do with Styles? Isn't it just related to varying font size? In my diagram earlier on which had the same issues you are having with styles, I had everything in default paragraph text. I then changed the size of only one line of text in column one and the issue occured. I don't think styles are relevant.
I entered my text from a Lorem Ipsum macro I wrote for myself (after reading about Foster's macro) and this text originated from the internet and was pasted as "Don't keep formatting or fonts". I assume that left me with default paragraph text.
Best regards,Brian.
Brian said: Hi Lars, are you sure this has anything to do with Styles? Isn't it just related to varying font size? In my diagram earlier on which had the same issues you are having with styles, I had everything in default paragraph text. I then changed the size of only one line of text in column one and the issue occured. I don't think styles are relevant. I entered my text from a Lorem Ipsum macro I wrote for myself (after reading about Foster's macro) and this text originated from the internet and was pasted as "Don't keep formatting or fonts". I assume that left me with default paragraph text. Best regards,Brian.
Well, it sure has something to do with styles. Styles have three parameters regarding paragraph text line spacing. Spacing before, after and line height. If you set those to 12/12/12 the text should line up no matter what font size you choose. But clearly, in Corel Draw X5 font size affects line spacing, if the text does not fit into the assigned line height. This makes using text styles a guesswork since you never know when a font size is too large for a certain line. In other words, paragraph text styles should work exactly the way it was illustrated above, where you can define a font size way too big and the text still remains on the specified line height (and the letters overlap). This is essential for a text layout program and must be fixed.