I've designed an image in Corel Draw 10 and have not found a successful way to save it in any format that eliminates the "white box" from appearing around the image. I have tried exporting in GIF and PNG (where at least I am given some option of transparency) but always end up with a black background upon opening after the save.
I want to be able to give this image to another party to use ontop of their own background without the interruption of a white box surrounding it. Hopefully, someone can walk me through a solution.
I have designed a logo for a person who is going to be setting up a website and, I imagine, setting this logo on top of an existing background there. They don't want to have the white area around the design.
Thanks, Brian, for the quick reply.
But, have you done the following to test what you said?
Quoted from my previous post:
"...tif or png images that have fully-transparent backgrounds for use with the ProDAD "RotoPen" tool (an "Effects" tool used in Corel Video Studio X5 Ultimate). "
Hi Larry,
I don't have Video Studio (or RotoPen), so I am unable to test the PNG file from Photo-Paint in that software. The PNG opens fine in Photoshop or in a web browser, without issue.
Are you saying that you have been able to create transparent PNGs from Photo-Paint, but they don't work in the mentioned software? I was assuming you hadn't been able to produce a transparent PNG at all.
Best regards,Brian.
Hi Brian,
Yes. I believe I stated it clearly (twice). Just a note; I'm interested in creating TIF IMAGES more than PNG, since TIF is what the RotoPen tool uses. That tool comes with only about a dozen samples, and those examples leave much to be desired. We users of VS ought to be able to create our own x-parent tif images with Corel products, since Video Studio IS a Corel product and we have had to pay extra money to purchase the 'Ultimate' version to get the ProDAD Effects addon. Corel has been totally uninterested in updating Video Studio X5, although they keep promoting it for sale without warning potential customers of it's pitfalls. I had to come to this forum seeking answers since Corel totally ignores its own Corel Video Studio forums!
Thanks again, Brian, for replying.
Your reply has very little, if anything, to do with my comments. Maybe you were replying to someone else's posts in this same topic?
EDITED: December 3, 2012 7:42AM (Pacific time).
Maybe I jumped-the-gun with my statement above. Since you didn't provide any text explanation and I cannot enlarge your attached pictures to read them clearly, maybe you are showing how to setup the Corel Color Management system? If so, and if that's the problem I'm having with duplicating what Photoshop has created, I'd love to have a better understanding.
By the way, I just recently found out that the ProDAD "RotoPen" tool is in reality the ProDAD HeroglyphRoute-4.0 plugin tool. I don't know why the names are in conflict with each other. It's confusing.
On my HDD installation of Corel Video Studio Pro X5 Ultimate, here's the path to where the tif images are that Photoshop created. I'm hoping to find out how to use Corel to create my own images which will work as theirs do, but haven't been able to do so, yet.
[Windows 7 64-bit OS], C:\Program Files (x86)\proDAD\HeroglyphRoute-4.0\clipart\cp2\image
I added an "EDIT" to my previous post. The edited text is in 'red'. I hope it leads to a solution for my issue with Corel's image transparency output to the ProDAD "RotoPen" plugin used in Corel Video Studio Pro X5 Ultimate version.
I would suggest there is no error with Draw/PP's transparent PNG/GIF files. If they open fine in other photo editors and in browsers, etc, then how can they be the issue? It seems pretty likely the issue is with RotoPen being limited/fussy with what files it handles. I think you are chasing the wrong software.
Adobe Photoshop can create transparent TIF images that work within the RotoPen plugin effect. NO Corel software (yet) has been able to produce a TIF image that works the same way, with that same RotoPen plugin. Several other users of both Corel software AND Corel's Video Studio Pro X5 Ultimate with RotoPen have been unable to create a TIF image that works with RotoPen.
I have never been talking about PNGS, GIFS & TIFS that work properly on web pages, over jpg graphics, or even on the "Overlay Tracks" within the Corel VS Pro X5 program. Of course, Corel software can create those xparent images just fine. I have talked and asked about ONLY TIF images for use with the RotoPen tool (which Corel sold to me!!!). That's the only issue. There's either something broken with Corel's products in regards to creating the same kind of TIF's that Adobe Photoshop can create, or else there's possibly an issue with the Corel "Color Management" system. I may not be using it correctly, and I cannot find information on how to use it correctly to duplicate what Photoshop creates. Nobody else who has tried has had any success doing it either. The RotoPen tool NEEDS xparent TIF's designed in some way that NO Corel product can do. It's that simple. It's that silly.
Once again, that's why I'm here on another Corel forum. The nice folks on the Corel Video Studio forum haven't been able to solve the problem either.
If Adobe Photoshop can (and does) create them, then why can't (or why doesn't) Corel Paint or Corel PaintShop Pro create them? Corel developers should know the answer, but I was hoping that some Corel users might also know the answer.
Unless you have Corel's Video Studio Pro X5 (and the ProDAD RotoPen plugin), you will never be able to test for yourself to see what the issue is. But, there are MANY people who do have both.
I've tried repeatedly to explain the exact problem. I hope this reply helps explain the issue a little better.
How can this be "the wrong software" (as you said)? This is a Corel forum; The product they sold to me is a Corel product; Corel Draw, Corel PhotoPaint and Corel PaintShop Pro are all Corel products. Yet, NOBODY has yet answered my simple questions about why Corel products cannot create the same kind of simple TIF files that Adobe creates for use in the ProDAD RotoPen plugin -- which is a Corel product (now)!
This ---is--- a Corel issue! But, everybody seems to want to skirt the issue and blame somebody else. Why?
EDIT: I'm still referring to Corel's Video Studio X5 PRO "Ultimate" version, and its innability to accept any TIF images created by Corel products for use with the ProDAD RotoPen tool (which is included with the Corel product sold to me and many other people).
Removing backgrounds is something that I do professionaly, with several thousand hours of experience. Here's the method for worst case photo cleanup:
Move the image into COREL Photo Paint - we use X3.
Copy the image, paste as a new image, and adjust tone curves, contrast, etc. to give a priority to the edges of the image you want to end up with, so that you can see what is image vs. background.
Create a blank file of the appropriate size in DRAW.
Create a second layer in the DRAW page, import the image copy into the bottom layer and lock it.
Set the pen tool to .1 points, contrasting outline, no fill.
Use the Bezier curve tool at 1:1 zoom to set the initial points - the ends of curves, etc. - that define the border between pic and background.
Select the curve and then select all those points and convert them to curves and cusps.
Refine the outline to get as tight a border as possible and then fill with RGB black, invisible outline.
Export as tiff, greyscale, anti-aliasing, transparent background, no ICC.
Load into Paint. Select black object and copy. Paste into photo. Position to exactly cover image area. Select create mask from object. Use object manager to make object invisible.
Adjust mask to fit precisely, using the mask transform tool which is what the object picker tool to the upper left turns into as the one option. If there are areas that don't fit correctly, then go back to DRAW and tweak the outling, reexport and reimport into Paint, etc.
With the mask and background selected, cut out the image you want. Double click on the background with the square mask to select it and delete it. Paste the image back in.
Now you have an object that hopefully is about a tight a cut as possible, separate from the background. You can tweak this further by feathering inside the object, typically about 3 pixels.
Oh, and If there are holes in the image - such as for screws - then create a separate outline in DRAW and when you've finished with all of them, select all the outlines and combine.
Save final image as CPT or PSD, which preserves objects and masks. You can now also save as a tiff, which will flatten the image, but preserve the transparency.