I write this message for all corel users. In my company i use corel and i use creative suite cs5 for one year and creative CC for one month. Adobe have a grate products but i think there are a lot of programs and one persone can't use all. I find my corel x4 more quickley than illustrator/indesign cc 64 bit. I spend one day for paginate eight pages with illustrator and three hours with Corel. I studies many hours indesign and illustrator but i think almost people have requirement that adobe promotes, it's only a business move. I hope Corel continue to developer this software with this policy and best each distribution. A good graphic using adobe but does not have the ideas in head will never make big plans!!
Tomasi Matttia said:I hope Corel continue to developer this software with this policy and best each distribution.
I use CDR from 2008 and in my opinion as i saw, Corel not invest in cdr developing much. From version x4 i saw some changes ,but not big changes. Only the character formating and the color management are changed, in rest just modified. Export and pdf problems appears in x6 like in x4, no free video tutorials to understand color management in x5, x6 ,CorelDraw masters not handle professional the serious problems like eps exporting or pdf publishing, or the bugs ,they reject all or handle indifferent ,they do not like the criticism :) etc... In graphic design industry (professional print companys) as i saw Adobe products are more preferably.
x4 said:Corel not invest in cdr developing much.
Ok, how much have they invested, real numbers please?
What factual information is your opinion based upon?
Not being mean, just real.
Maybe he means, "effort". Not much effort invested. At least, that's how I read it. And I agree with that sentiment. I always have.
KuttyJoe said:Maybe he means, "effort". Not much effort invested. At least, that's how I read it. And I agree with that sentiment. I always have.
Now you got me curious. What did you use to measure "not much effort"? I mean how do you know?
I am asking because I do not recall your name as participating in the creation/testing of x6. I was there throughout and I totally dis agree with your statement. The effort put forward was extreme and extended beyond the normal, countless hours by so many people. I can say no more.
I say the effort was not enough but obviously I can't prove anything. You say the effort was extended and extreme, but obviously, you can't prove anything. It's interesting that you would attempt such an argument when you have no more proof than anyone else. What I do have though is the resulting products. I have experienced them over a period of about 2 decades. I also have competing products. I have all of their starting points so I can see how much they've progressed over time. So what I can measure extremely well is the result of all of their efforts. So what I focus on is the thing that matters. The result. You can talk all you want about somebody's efforts and accuse people of personal attacks. But what matters to people who spend money and buy products is the quality of the product they've bought.
If you want to talk about effort, you should look at the last 20 years. Look at where CorelDraw Suite was then and look at where it is today. Look at where Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator was 20 years ago and where they are today. Then you can say something realistic about effort.
Neither I, nor you can determine what Adobe and Corel developers have been doing with their time. What we can both see easily though is the result of their efforts. That's really what matters.
KuttyJoe said:Neither I, nor you can determine what Adobe and Corel developers have been doing with their time. What we can both see easily though is the result of their efforts. That's really what matters.
The Corel Team works the entire year (except holidays, of course) on the improvement of the suite, not only a few monhs before the launch. And of course, Adobe team should do the same. Perhaps the results are not enough, or perhaps you are not agree the results. That's different, but is very offensive to say "there's not effort". It's like watching the winner of the past Contest and say: "He can do it better, he has not made enough effort". Well, you an like it or not, and surely always is possible to do it better, but you can not assume that was not hard enough.
Of course, Corel can and must do more, and still has much to improve. But it is not only to correct errors or improve existing tools, but to develop new and more powerful features. But we can say something similar about Adobe and the differences between CS5, CS5.5, CS6 and CC....Do you really think they have done everything possible? Do not major changes could be introduced? Is it worth paying so much money for so little difference? how many Adobe programs create barcodes or QR codes without third-party plugins? What imposition capabilities have been improved ?
Let's talk about a simple taks, ie, create a rectangle on Illustrator with two rounded angles. Yes, you can use the Pathfinder but if you need to change the roundness of any angle you should do it all again. Or find and replace object propierties (not select all similar objects). You do not think Adobe also could do better? you do not think other companies could also make an effort a bit more and develop more and better tools? it's not only about Corel.
As always, everything is relative to the use of each designer to every program. For many people, CorelDRAW X3 and Photoshop CS3 are enough, and perhaps do not take advantage of new features or differences.
What I dream for CorelDRAW? A simple 3D effects (such as rotate an extrude object), textures that adapt to the shape of the object surface, true lighting from different light sources, more speed with text flow, a better Object Manager, new realistic Extrude, a better envelope also for bitmaps, merge PhotoPaint to CorelDRAW as a bitmap layer... a lot of more!!!