I write this message for all corel users. In my company i use corel and i use creative suite cs5 for one year and creative CC for one month. Adobe have a grate products but i think there are a lot of programs and one persone can't use all. I find my corel x4 more quickley than illustrator/indesign cc 64 bit. I spend one day for paginate eight pages with illustrator and three hours with Corel. I studies many hours indesign and illustrator but i think almost people have requirement that adobe promotes, it's only a business move. I hope Corel continue to developer this software with this policy and best each distribution. A good graphic using adobe but does not have the ideas in head will never make big plans!!
KuttyJoe said:Neither I, nor you can determine what Adobe and Corel developers have been doing with their time. What we can both see easily though is the result of their efforts. That's really what matters.
Which is why I switched from Illustrator to CorelDraw when X6 came out.
For my purposes I have found CorelDraw to give me better results than Adobe Illustrator, and I've been using Illustrator far longer than CorelDraw. I was originally using FreeHand but when that became a dead end I switched to Illustrator. I'd also been using CorelDraw 3 (not X3) and though it was more similar to FreeHand than Illustrator it was missing (sometimes quite) a few things that Illustrator did, but it still had its use sometimes as it did do a few things better than Illustrator, ditto for CorelDraw 9.
When CorelDraw X3 came out I decided to give it a try as I was not satisfied with Illustrator in (for me) some crucial areas and found X3 to be better for my purposes than Illustrator in those areas so I upgraded X3 and have been upgrading to each new version since. The only thing stopping me from completely switching to CorelDraw was its incomplete support for OpenType features, which got solved sufficiently enough for me in X6. Since then I'm no longer using Illustrator unless I have to deal with Illustrator files that use things not supported in CorelDraw. With the current CC situation I'm not likely to start using CC for various reasons, one of the more important one being that it is not possible to keep the most recent version when you quit CC after a while.
To get back to X4's issues regarding PNG, EPS and PDF files, in my opinion I getter better and more predictable PNG files from CorelDraw than from Illustrator. No issues with PDF files so far. The same applies with other things where I have found CorelDraw to be better than Illustrator, and that is really what matters for me. I rarely use EPS files but have not found issues with those either but that might partly because I don't use EPS that often..
To say Illustrator is way better than CorelDraw is in my opinion quite a bit of a stretch, as it should really depend on your actual needs/requirement and less on your wants/desires.
Is there room for improvement in CorelDraw? Yes. But the same applies to Illustrator, at least from my perspective, otherwise I would not have abandoned it for CorelDraw.
ArtV said:Which is why I switched from Illustrator to CorelDraw
What you said makes sense. It only takes one time when you have to deal with an InDesign created PDF or ID native file that has overlapping Photoshop, Illustrator and InDesign transparency in it to realize that CorelDRAW is a vastly superior platform for professional file creation and output.
I don't know about you guys but I need to make a profit and Adobe products make that difficult.
You post up an image where one has to find a needle in a haystack that represents a problem with Photoshop quality, while always speaking well of a competing product which may crash by the minute, hour, or day. A product being used by almost no one. A product that is barely supported by the company that sells it. But you find some secret, hidden issue with the one of the greatest programs ever created, and actually challenge me to find the problem hidden in the picture.
David Milisock said:I don't know about you guys but I need to make a profit and Adobe products make that difficult.
Yes, I agree. Most of my work is for the web and video and even Photoshop or Fireworks cannot come close the the clean crisp text Draw exports to image. My only use of Illustrator is as an expensive import filter for Draw.
Also to expand my statement on Photoshop, For the purposes of professional printing work PhotoPaint works great. My only beef with it is it lacks layer styles which is visual razzle dazzle. Hopefully Photopaint adds that type of feature soon. With that feature good by Photoshop.
Look at the cost of CorelDraw suite and they should change the name to CorelDraw sweet
Ariel said:I wonder why "20 years" and not othe date, btw I will accept this date. 20 years ago, Adobe was a big company around the world, after develop the industry-standard language for printer: Postscript, and the PS and EPS file format, and there's not any other alternative.
I'm not talking about Adobe vs Corel. I was talking about Illustrator and Photoshop, vs CorelDraw Suite. I was talking about what kind of development we've seen of these products over 20 years. Adobe vs Corel is a different conversation.