Hi all,
I guess we can call this part two of an earlier post I made regarding color management. While I am no longer having the color issue; I am experiencing application errors and shut down when working with large files. When I say large, I mean those close to or over a meg; those in which there are complex layers or those in which the canvas is more than a foot by a foot. When this happens, the program closes; so far only one file has been completely lost; it was one I had worked on previously and my auto save is set for every ten minutes but when the forced shut down occured and I restarted the application, the original file was still there but entirely blank, not one line on the whole thing. Thank goodness for the back-up copy.
I have two error reports but because they are so long, I did not want to post them unless requested.
Any ideas?
Thanks much,
~Lee
Since I make large point-of-sale posters and banners, using a large-format inkjet, I sometimes wind up with files in the hundreds of mB's. The only problems I've had have occurred when trying to print extremely large files. I get a "beep" and cDraw just unloads itself -- no warning, no error message. I think this problem is caused by Windows XP's spooler, and it hasn't happened lately (fingers crossed).
When you say "shuts down", do you mean your cDraw application shuts down, or do you mean your operating system shuts down? If you would post the error messages, perhaps I (or someone else) could help you nail down what's happening.
Tom Weeks
Beer Man
Hey Tom,
Thanks for the reply! :) It's Corel that's shutting down, not my system. Sometimes I'll get the app recovery pop-up, sometimes it's just 'poof' and gone in a nanosecond.
Here is the error report:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><!DOCTYPE CARMDataBase SYSTEM "CARMReport.dtd"><CARMDataBase><CReport><Date>10/10/07</Date><EXEName>CorelDRW.exe</EXEName><EXEVersion>12.0.0.458</EXEVersion><ModuleName>ntdll.dll</ModuleName><ModuleVersion>5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)</ModuleVersion><CrashAddress>7C910F29</CrashAddress><OSName>Windows NT/2000</OSName><OSSubName>Win32</OSSubName><OSVersion>5.1</OSVersion><OSBuild>2600</OSBuild><OSExtraInfo>Service Pack 2</OSExtraInfo><BitsPerPixel>32</BitsPerPixel><ScreenWidth>1440</ScreenWidth><ScreenHeight>900</ScreenHeight><UserName>Not Specified</UserName><UserEmail>Not Specified</UserEmail><BetaID></BetaID><Title></Title><Method>
</Method><Log>[Core Info]Exception=Access ViolationTime=10/10/07 21:58:23Module=C:\WINDOWS\system32\ntdll.dllNumber of Processors=1Processor=Unknown Intel ProcessorOperating System= Windows NT/2000v5.1 Build: 2600 Service Pack 2Display Information= Mode: Unknown Width: 1440 Height: 900Address=7C910F29Context= Dr0: 00000000 Dr1: 00000000 Dr2: 00000000 Dr3: 00000000 Dr6: 00000000 Dr7: 00000000 SegGs: 00000000 SegFs: 0000003B SegEs: 00000023 SegDs: 00000023 Edi: 07328F00 Esi: 07328F40 Ebx: 00CE0000 Edx: 00000000 Ecx: 00000000 Eax: 07328F48 Ebp: 0012DF24 Eip: 7C910F29 SegCs: 0000001B EFlags: 00210246 Esp: 0012DF18 SegSs: 00000023DLLs= Name:C:\Program Files\Corel\Corel Graphics 12\Programs\CorelDRW.exe Version:12.0.0.458 Base: 400000-42A000
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MissLee,
This was a memory access violation, probably because of insuffiecient available RAM. You had a quite large number of .dll's loaded when this error occurred, and at least one loaded twice (2 instances). Adding another gB of ram to your machine might help.
Another thing that might help (although there is much conflicting advice on this) is forcing Windows to unload .dll's not in use. I did it on my machine (desktop, 2 gHz AMD processor,1 gig of ram, WinXP pro- Sp2), and I don't know if it helped or not, but it had no negative effect. You can do it by editing the registry manually using regedit (a dangerous adventure) or by using any of several "tweaking" utilities that edit the registry for you. I used "freshUI", from Fresh Devices (freshdevices.com) Changes made with FreshUI are reversable.
Even if forcing Windows to unload .dll's really works, Windows will probably not unload the corelDraw dll's until you close CorelDraw, but if you have run and closed other applications while working in CorelDraw, those dll's will have been cached in your RAM and will stay there until Windows "thinks" it's safe to unload them. Multitasking is great, but when working on complicated graphical images, it might be beneficial to only have CorelDraw running -- then, IF forcing Windows to unload .dll's does actually work, the .dll's from other apps won't be using up resources.
Hope this helps,
Hi Tom,
It helped a bunch and makes sense. When I got this (relatively) new system I thought a gig of RAM would be enough but I can see now with the multitasking I do, I should have gone for more. I typically do have several programs open including Corel; I'll be using your suggestion and try keeping just Corel up until I can upgrade the memory. Ok, well maybe not JUST Corel...I gotta have music to work by; but the mutliple browser windows, ftp client, IM program, Photoshop and Outlook are all staying closed. Really. :D
Thanks again for your help; it is sincerely appreciated.