Now that I am getting fairly adept at basic Corel Draw designing - I have a couple of nagging issues that I want to follow up on.
I asked this question last year. (paraphrasing) ..... Can I select on object outside the print page and print it out by using the "print selection" option in the dialogue box.
The answer I got was no.
A lot of my preliminary artwork is in CMYK. After I am done the final artwork is in RGB and I move it to the print page to print.
I usually select everything on the print page and hit the "print selection only" option in the dialogue box. This seems to load the image faster and prints faster.
If I forget to hit the "print selection only" option and it defaults to the "print page" or print document" option ... I always get a warning in the print preview pane "your drawing has CMYK colors in it.
This is true if the printer is reading the entire workbook page - but if it can only print what is on the printable page (RGB only) - then why is it scanning the entire workspace and picking up the CMYK colors?
Or I can ask it this way - why does the coreldraw printer driver scan the entire workbook when it can only print what is on the printable page?
The other nagging question - I can't seem to get the outline tool to default to RGB.... it always defalutls to CMYK and I have to go to the RGB color palette and right click to get the outline color to RGB. Bugs the hell out of me so any help there is also appreciated.
dmyster
First I have to ask if your post in an attempt at humor? Improper utilization of multipage size documents keep desktop on layer mode off is where the bull$hit started.
"Which is exactly how it worked prior to 2019 where everything ended up on the Desktop layer after switching page or saving.So what do you expect?"
You know better than to make this statement. The behavior with 2018 and earlier in single page or multipage mode was that ALL DESKTOP ITEMS displayed on the one desktop when you opened the file, perfect for preflight and file sharing. No overlapping of items, ergo nothing hidden behind something else, something that easily happens now when switching between keep desktop objects on layer mode to the old default. All desktop items show in the docker as on the desktop, EASY TO FIND, easy to share!
"You know what David, this is exactly what can happen with the old desktop mode when we use pages of different size"
Yes, except when you open the file the object displays in the object docker as being on the desktop! Again, perfect for pre flighting a file and file sharing.
Screwing up how Draw supported multi-sized pages is where this mess got started, Corel did it on the cheap! The proper thing to do would have been to keep the page mode default as it was, make it so when you used multi-page sizes the keep desktop object on layer would be the only option. Then allow the option of activating keep desktop objects on layer for other modes. It is a good idea for maps and technical drawings but lousy for real multi-page work.
To be honest the concept of developing the features may be to complicated for Corel programmers and users to wrap their head around but once implemented the processes require near zero thinking. The programmers need to be smarter than the users.
"With only a few pages, drag via page tab and drop. Easy.With lots of pages, select object, move to Desktop layer in Objects docker, switch page. Rather easy too.Or why not use copy/cut and paste?There could be a button in Objects docker though, "Move to Desktop layer", that would be helpful."
Is this more humor? I expect this from a novice, but you must know better.
When operating with keep desktop objects on layer mode off, NOTHING is easier or faster for moving items from one page to another then dragging to the desktop, selecting the destination page and placing it. The more complex the file, the more complex the object being moved and the lower the system specifications the more this is true. My system which is a desktop with 64GB of RAM and 8GB video on the Intel platform and SSD drives has very few issues but most won't spend this on a system
The current trend of users thinking that laptops are powerful enough to do graphics work makes this even issue more important. Laptops with 16 to 32 GB of RAM and low-end video cards struggle with copy/cut and paste, 15 seconds to over a minute in time or crashes are unacceptable. Multipage files with 1.5GB or more in memory can be very time consuming if you have to cut an object that 6' x 4' with 30,000 objects in it to paste into another page. This is work where the real money is for the foreseeable future.
"When "Keep Desktop Objects on Layer" is enabled, they stay on their pages and layers and they do not need to be tagged."
I know your smarter than this so I must assume you shilling for Corel.
The desktop items need to be placed in the desktop area of the object docker and tagged for page and layer or they need to remain on the page area of the docker and tagged as being on the desktop. This makes finding items and pre-flighting files quick and profitable. You only get so much time to fix a job. Let alone sharing files in a multi-user environment.
"So you are suggesting a confusing exception to justify the illogical behavior of objects jumping between layers without the user actually moving them???"
Now that's insulting to any intelligence! Just have pop up, a little cloud that says due to desktop considerations, only keep desktop objects on layer mode is available in multi-page sized documents, place a checkbox to not display again.
"Even though I doubt this happened only because of the new default mode for how objects outside the drawing area are treated, I'm pretty sure you did your best to explain to them how this new way would ruin their files and cost them thousands of dollars"
My clients and I have had a 30-year relationship that's been profitable for both of us and it continues to this day. Corel lost the user base I kept the clients.
So it's not the way it worked, my deal with my large clients starting with version 4 was as long as I get the printing and signs they got CorelDRAW support for free.
Starting with X8 with the extremely poor performance of CFM across a network, culminating with the worst version of Draw ever with 2019 Adobe was cheaper, even though they're dropping $10,00 to $25,000 a year on Adobe. Their employees make $50,000 and up a year, CorelDRAW performance does not cut it in that environment.