Conclusion after some months with X4

RunFlaCruiser said:

even for dummy files X4 is a big turtle,

Yes. I agree it is a bad thing about the newer version.

I could install verion 12 right now and throw twice as many items on the screen. Zooming in and out, and program operation in general would be twice as fast. Same thing with version 9 on an old Windows 98 machine. Why are newer versions slower?

I upgraded to X4 for my shop computer for the macro power. When I had version 12 however I could work faster and with more files.

 

pap said:

Really dissapointed  blame myself that i didnt started with Mac /illustrator platform...

What?!? .....Cooo Cooo.

~John

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Years ago, Illustrator was both very slow, and very skeletal in terms of it's feature set.  Corel Draw had a lot of features and was extremely fast.  But with each update Corel Draw got slower and slower while not really adding a lot in the way of features.  Illustrator on the other hand got faster and faster while piling on cool new features.  Today, Illustrator is probably a little faster than Corel Draw, but it's featureset might be a little less than Corel Draw.  It's hard to say because Corel Draw sort of dabbles in many things while not digging too deeply into them, such as page layout while Illustrator has a better focus on drawing and brushes and such.

I can remember a time when I had began to primarily use Illustrator, but Corel Draw was so fast that I would open Corel Draw just to preview fonts!  Illustrator was terrible for previewing fonts.  Since Corel Draw 3, Corel Draw can barely preview fonts at all.

KuttyJoe said:

Hey, stop trying to take over my role on this forum as the Corel antagonist

Sorry that put my leg inside your field

KuttyJoe said:

Corel does not need a macro to make a drop shadow

when i say need a macro to do smtg mean need to do it as must be (dont say me that is the same quality Draw / iLL shadow.....)

KuttyJoe said:

LOL  It was doing stuff like that I suppose a decade before Illustrator.  A lot of other stuff too.

my answer is what u try to answer

KuttyJoe said:

I suppose you don't really know all that much about Corel Draw.

i use a program to make to make GOOD and EASY tasks about my job, if for to do a simple CLEAN and NICE thing (as drop Shadow p.e.) must examine the core libraries, or all macro helpers yes that i dont WANT to know much about

KuttyJoe said:

I kind of agree with your general feelings

My feelings bout X4 experience i draw here :)

Cheers

*i play the role of antagonist just for conversations issues

Have you tried adding Corel to your AV exclusion list.? That can often speed the application up.

Jack Ross said:

Have you tried adding Corel to your AV exclusion list.? That can often speed the application up.

HI.

Maybe. But I think this thread is referring to the basic fact.

Install both and the older app can just do things faster. Load 1000 items on the screen and fly!

Did we have that much less work way back when. No, but when you upgrade make sure you got the power because the app sure will need it.

A few new tools perhaps but why the slow down?

Also look at the contour tool. You better not contour any complex items unless you need a bathroom break.

~John

RunFlaCruiser said:

Also look at the contour tool. You better not contour any complex items unless you need a bathroom break.

for this issue most times i use the Convert Outline to Object / does more accurate work , even if need some more steps (*but fast enough to dont get time to be angry  ) , can make also interesting things w dots, round corners etc...i use it most for my vinyl cutter (*a PROUD D-610 SUMMA SIGN / this has nonstop work from 1991 

Cheers

THE ONLY SOLUTION

COREL GET BACK US TO VERSION 9!!! (X9 maybe )

Cheers

pap said:

THE ONLY SOLUTION

COREL GET BACK US TO VERSION 9!!! (X9 maybe )

Cheers

That was the version that was so buggy that I'd finally had enough and I called up Corel and asked for a full refund!  I don't remember a particular release that was ever stable, but X5 seems to be the most stable ever for me.  Still, it feels cheap and unrefined compared to Adobe products, but it doesn't seem to be crashing by the minute or second anymore.

KuttyJoe said:

That was the version that was so buggy that I'd finally had enough and I called up Corel and asked for a full refund!  I don't remember a particular release that was ever stable, but X5 seems to be the most stable ever for me.  Still, it feels cheap and unrefined compared to Adobe products, but it doesn't seem to be crashing by the minute or second anymore.

HI.

This is opposite of how I feel. Just for fun, and argument sake here's my take...

Draw 9 was solid as far as my workflow was concerned. I hear many others say the same and I still see many reluctant to upgrade from it, even today.

Draw X5 was buggy as hell when it first came out. It's nice now. If you had a great experience pre-sp, or even pre-sp2 then your very lucky.

I really don't think CorelDraw program feels cheap, or has ever felt cheap to me.

~John

KuttyJoe said:

That was the version that was so buggy that I'd finally had enough and I called up Corel and asked for a full refund!

the only problem had the 9.373 version that ignore psd on separations Ver 9.439 WAS ROCK SOLID

Cheers

KuttyJoe said:

THE ONLY SOLUTION

COREL GET BACK US TO VERSION 9!!! (X9 maybe )

Cheers