Hi All
I made the BigJump from 9 to X4 some months ago , time to say something about, feelings are really mixted
from one side i loved the new interface, how X4 handles PDF was the great thing for me , awesome feature was for me the export for office option (png power :) ) smart guides helped some, but i really miss ver 9 speed
even for dummy files X4 is a big turtle, i have the feeling of "jumping" graphics (like "lag" in games) tested illustrator CS5 in same machine was EXTREMELY SPEEDER ,damn if i didnt have the Unicode fonts issue i d thrown that turtle away... its hard to say that for the software that i do my job from 1991 but ver 9 was the GOLD version -Damn Corel MAKE A FAST and STABLE programm with only a few features
Really dissapointed blame myself that i didnt started with Mac /illustrator platform...
pap said:even for dummy files X4 is a big turtle,
Yes. I agree it is a bad thing about the newer version.
I could install verion 12 right now and throw twice as many items on the screen. Zooming in and out, and program operation in general would be twice as fast. Same thing with version 9 on an old Windows 98 machine. Why are newer versions slower?
I upgraded to X4 for my shop computer for the macro power. When I had version 12 however I could work faster and with more files.
pap said:Really dissapointed blame myself that i didnt started with Mac /illustrator platform...
What?!? .....Cooo Cooo.
~John
RunFlaCruiser said: even for dummy files X4 is a big turtle, Yes. I agree it is a bad thing about the newer version. I could install verion 12 right now and throw twice as many items on the screen. Zooming in and out, and program operation in general would be twice as fast. Same thing with version 9 on an old Windows 98 machine. Why are newer versions slower? I upgraded to X4 for my shop computer for the macro power. When I had version 12 however I could work faster and with more files. pap said:Really dissapointed blame myself that i didnt started with Mac /illustrator platform... What?!? .....Cooo Cooo. ~John [/quote] Years ago, Illustrator was both very slow, and very skeletal in terms of it's feature set. Corel Draw had a lot of features and was extremely fast. But with each update Corel Draw got slower and slower while not really adding a lot in the way of features. Illustrator on the other hand got faster and faster while piling on cool new features. Today, Illustrator is probably a little faster than Corel Draw, but it's featureset might be a little less than Corel Draw. It's hard to say because Corel Draw sort of dabbles in many things while not digging too deeply into them, such as page layout while Illustrator has a better focus on drawing and brushes and such. I can remember a time when I had began to primarily use Illustrator, but Corel Draw was so fast that I would open Corel Draw just to preview fonts! Illustrator was terrible for previewing fonts. Since Corel Draw 3, Corel Draw can barely preview fonts at all.
even for dummy files X4 is a big turtle,
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Years ago, Illustrator was both very slow, and very skeletal in terms of it's feature set. Corel Draw had a lot of features and was extremely fast. But with each update Corel Draw got slower and slower while not really adding a lot in the way of features. Illustrator on the other hand got faster and faster while piling on cool new features. Today, Illustrator is probably a little faster than Corel Draw, but it's featureset might be a little less than Corel Draw. It's hard to say because Corel Draw sort of dabbles in many things while not digging too deeply into them, such as page layout while Illustrator has a better focus on drawing and brushes and such.
I can remember a time when I had began to primarily use Illustrator, but Corel Draw was so fast that I would open Corel Draw just to preview fonts! Illustrator was terrible for previewing fonts. Since Corel Draw 3, Corel Draw can barely preview fonts at all.
Have you tried adding Corel to your AV exclusion list.? That can often speed the application up.
Jack Ross said: Have you tried adding Corel to your AV exclusion list.? That can often speed the application up.
HI.
Maybe. But I think this thread is referring to the basic fact.
Install both and the older app can just do things faster. Load 1000 items on the screen and fly!
Did we have that much less work way back when. No, but when you upgrade make sure you got the power because the app sure will need it.
A few new tools perhaps but why the slow down?
Also look at the contour tool. You better not contour any complex items unless you need a bathroom break.
RunFlaCruiser said:Also look at the contour tool. You better not contour any complex items unless you need a bathroom break.
for this issue most times i use the Convert Outline to Object / does more accurate work , even if need some more steps (*but fast enough to dont get time to be angry ) , can make also interesting things w dots, round corners etc...i use it most for my vinyl cutter (*a PROUD D-610 SUMMA SIGN / this has nonstop work from 1991
Cheers
THE ONLY SOLUTION
pap said: THE ONLY SOLUTION COREL GET BACK US TO VERSION 9!!! (X9 maybe ) Cheers
That was the version that was so buggy that I'd finally had enough and I called up Corel and asked for a full refund! I don't remember a particular release that was ever stable, but X5 seems to be the most stable ever for me. Still, it feels cheap and unrefined compared to Adobe products, but it doesn't seem to be crashing by the minute or second anymore.
KuttyJoe said:That was the version that was so buggy that I'd finally had enough and I called up Corel and asked for a full refund! I don't remember a particular release that was ever stable, but X5 seems to be the most stable ever for me. Still, it feels cheap and unrefined compared to Adobe products, but it doesn't seem to be crashing by the minute or second anymore.
This is opposite of how I feel. Just for fun, and argument sake here's my take...
Draw 9 was solid as far as my workflow was concerned. I hear many others say the same and I still see many reluctant to upgrade from it, even today.
Draw X5 was buggy as hell when it first came out. It's nice now. If you had a great experience pre-sp, or even pre-sp2 then your very lucky.
I really don't think CorelDraw program feels cheap, or has ever felt cheap to me.
KuttyJoe said:That was the version that was so buggy that I'd finally had enough and I called up Corel and asked for a full refund!
the only problem had the 9.373 version that ignore psd on separations Ver 9.439 WAS ROCK SOLID
KuttyJoe said: THE ONLY SOLUTION COREL GET BACK US TO VERSION 9!!! (X9 maybe ) Cheers
I disagree about this, CorelDRAW 9.0 was one of the best versions ever. Also, was the end of the line started with CorelDRAW 6.0 Simple, fast, stable, CorelDRAW 9 was one of the best programs (I also like the 5.0). And, although some people has problems, X5 is one of the best also, not for speed but for global performance and compatibility
Ariel said:Also, was the end of the line started with CorelDRAW 6.0 Simple, fast, stable
also was the last version before the Unicode Font Armagedon - the only reason that made me to jump to X4
and above all is the version i love
Ariel said: THE ONLY SOLUTION COREL GET BACK US TO VERSION 9!!! (X9 maybe ) Cheers
Some people claim crashing by the second. Some by the minute. Some claim to only crash a few times a day and there are the few people who claim to never crash at all. It seems that people have different experiences with the same Corel products. My experiences have been perfectly consistent across many different machines for many years. So for me, Corel Draw 9 was the straw that broke the Camel's back. I'm sure I opened it up and tested it for a bunch of known bugs and found that none of them had been solved and called up for a refund. Those same bugs continued to be a problem in Corel Draw for years to come. The same bugs were present on Mac version of Corel Draw too. It is what it is.