I'm 3rd party IT Support for a company and they've got CorelDRAW 2022 on 2 computers. When opening a file (of any size), where it be 9mb or 400mb, everything is lightning quick. There's no performance issues at all, but within about 30 seconds to 2 minutes, it gets laggy and jittery. They have CorelDRAW 2020 on a weaker PC and it does not happen on this PC.The specs of the 2 computers are as follows:Ryzen 7 2700X8GB RamGTX 1650 128GB NVMe SSDThe older computer is identical but has a GT 710. I'm very confused as I've double checked everything on the computer and it doesn't seem to be a hardware issue. Hardware Acceleration is on, the GPU is set to be used, the settings in CorelDRAW are set to use the GPU for everything it should, I've set the power options to high performance, memory is sitting at about 70%. The only thing I can think of is that the SSDs have about 5% of their space left. Would this cause the performance degradation?Any answers as to why could be very helpful so I can report back to them and help, as I've exhausted all the options I'm familiar with.
Insufficient system, I would avoid anything AMD, I use IntelnI9 withn64 GB RAM and a true NVidia card and 2TB Samsung SSD.
David Milisock said:I would avoid anything AMD
Well some of us avoid everything Intel because it puts Israel inside! No other reason is required!
I've seen zero issues with AMD processors. That is perhaps not the case for AMD graphics cards. How well Corel have managed the difference between OpenGL and the Nvidia system is just unknown to users.
David this Intel insistence is troubling! You don't know and nor do I, what systems Corel are using for their testing. But we can say that AMD processors and GPUs are used for programs that thrash a system well beyond what Draw does.
5% free space on a 128Gb is not good. Have you deleted all temp files and done a clean up to remove junk like old patches?
Next run task manager and check memory. What is the "reserved hardware memory"? Should be a small number like 40Mb. If not the you have a memory issue to resolve. One that isn't detected with any memory checking tool I've ever found. If that is the issue we can talk about that specifically.
What you need when chasing these errors is extra hardware that you can swap.
And you are running it on 8Mb of RAM. Most of us are running 32Gb of RAM.
All that said, it does sound like some sort of memory leak. Perhaps one that can be ignored when you have 32Gb of RAM.
I've deleted temp files, and done a disk clean up, this was the first thing I did. It got about 4GB extra free.Im planning to go over with the customer and delete as much as we can together to see if we can trim the space down on that drive. As a sidenote, the machines have 8GB of RAM, not 8Mb, but I assume that was a typo on your end, rather than a misunderstanding.The memory usage hovers at about 75 to 85% so I don't believe it is a memory issue. If it was hitting 100% it would definitely be that. The memory itself doesn't increase constantly either, so I'm unsure if it is a memory leak.Are there any memory leaks documented with corel? if there is, are there any fixes for that?
Check this "hardware reserved RAM".
You should do all the usual stuff and a full memory test. Always rule out anything that might be hardware first so you aren't chasing your tail.
How old? AMD is fussy about RAM speed. I find with older RAM, I've need to slow the RAM speed. And I'd thrown what is perfect RAM just to be sure that wasn't the problem.
Not sure if it actually makes a difference, but I upped the voltage on my RAM just a tad.
Check heat too. Is there dust on the cooler?
Start with hardware then Windows. What the difference in the event viewer between each?
Don't ignore what seems like "oh it can't be that" stuff. I had months of hell looking for a fault that turned out to be a SATA cable. Post ribbon cables, I thought those things were unbreakable.
A software issue or memory leak would be specific to a particular operation. If that was happening just opening a file there would be many reports.
SSDs do fail.
I'd go with what this guy says on the SSD...
They all claim memory doesn't slow down. Not at all my experience. I'm suss on any RAM older than 4 years.
4) The 4TH factor I saved for last, because it’s kind of a special condition which only recently started happening.
SSD’s, especially the earlier, older, or more budget models suffer from a very particular design flaw which is not inherent to Disk/Platter based harddrives. Ass the harddrive gets full, and reaches the outer limits of it’s storage capacity something happens to the disk and slows down significantly.
Never fill an SSD to the brim, because it will severely slow down vs a fresh SSD which isn’t full to capacity. It’s actually quite a bit of a technical issue, but i recommend you google terms such as “SSD Slowdown”, and “SSD Bit Rot” with or without quotes. I imagine the results will be similar in either case. I searched the terms without quotes, and found pertinent results right away, so give that a read to find a better understand why this garbage happens, and why I still don’t bother with standard NAND SSD drives.
SSD’s also have an issue where you can only read and write to them a limited number of times. Once you write to a cluster a certain amount of times, it breaks, and can cause severe slow down issues, data loss, and severe system crashes, so if you depend on SSD’s for performance you should always keep at the very least a USB Disk/Platter based harddrive to backup your personal data.
If possible hooking up your Disk/Platter based harddrive will provide much better performance than any USB2.0 port could possibly hope to achieve. -Whatever you can afford for a backup should serve you well in the event your SSD becomes overly crowded, or a cluster dies and takes down the whole system.
For the most part these are the main reasons a computer can appear to slow down overtime, but with good maintenance habits you can prevent most of these issues. cooling is super important, as well as making sure you uninstall garbage you don’t use, and making sure you Windows Auto Run folders in both your harddrive and registries are completely empty except for applications mandatory for your hardware to operate and function correctly. Like applications for some wifi devices like Intel wifi, and certain keyboards and mice/touchpads like synaptic devices.
www.quora.com/Do-CPUs-and-RAM-memory-modules-really-get-slower-over-time
It's not a SATA SSD, It's NVMe so it's connected directly to the motherboard.The PC was cleaned out and i've checked Temperatures and everything is below 60. It's Ryzen 2nd Gen, so RAM speeds are better high. The Speed of the RAM in the PC is 3200Mhz, running with the XMP profile. Turning off XMP makes the PC run slower as a whole as it runs at 2400Mhz.The RAM is Kingston FURY Beast, so it's not old.There's no logs in event viewer suggesting errors or critical messages. I did a memory test and no errors cropped up either.The SSD's could be failing, but they're samsung's which are usually quite good quality, and only about 1.5/2 years old.SFC /Scannow and chkdsk found nothing, and scandisk found nothing, so no windows corruptions or drive errors.
To add onto this, I am aware that SSD's filled to capacity slow down significantly, I was just wondering if this would cause such a performance degradation over time. I believe someone else helped me narrow down on this by informing me that Corel makes heavy usage on Temp files, which would definitely hammer the drive. The drive usage is still only about 10% in task manager, so it's not being hit hard, but I wouldn't expect temp files being created to cause a massive usage in here.
Sounds like you are heading for a parts swap between the boxes to rule out hardware. Maybe just put the SSD (or a copy of it) into the other box as see what happens. That should rule in or out software fast.
That could definitely be tried, I think first we're going to clear out the drives as best we can to see if that improves performance first. I don't believe we have any spare drives at our Office, so we'd have to charge them for new drives, of a bigger size as well, to test that.Thank you for your input :)
If you think of anything else please let me know!