Corel and Apple - I'm addicted to Corel but alas not with my mac arghh!! Why and When?

Apple on the computer industry is more than a trademark, it's a feeling, something like Ferrari on car world, like Harley-Davidson on motorcycles, like CorelDRAW on vector graphics. Don't ask if Honda is faster than Harley-Davidson, the simple sound of  the engine is different and special. In the same way, an iPhone is not "just another phone", and one iPod is not "just another MP3 player". Other manufacturers try to emulate Apple as far is possible (including Windows) Also, a Mac is not "just another computer", not only because you can use 32 Gb of RAM, also it's a beautiful design, when soem people see a Mac just say "Wooooow!!!"  When people use a Mac feel pleasure and satisfaction. But the most important thing: it's a powerful computer, with a good an stable operating system. Make no mistake ourselves, or think "if I do not use it, it's not good". 

Well well, would you believe it... yup a first step i guess...

I'm using Android so would want an Android app.
But is it a sign that a new version of the CSuite may be available for Apple OS?
Meanwhile I'm having to get used to Adobe CS and I'am missung the versatility and flexibility of Corel Draw etc.
Cummon Corel! I would suggest you're loosing long-term users - I'm sure I'm not the only one who's moved from PC to Apple and apart from the loss of Corel I'm more than pleased with Apple's OS and utilities.

It's NOT a PC MAC battle it's juts that there must be a market for Corel on the Mac! surely!?

Onwards and upwards.

Jules. 

FosterCoburn said:

**But is it a sign that a new version of the CSuite may be available for Apple OS?**

 

No, it isn't.

HI.

Agreed. Although possibly ironic I don't see a link.

-John

FosterCoburn said:

The reality is that CorelDRAW works wonderfully using Boot Camp and Parallels. Given the small number of Mac users, I just don't see how Corel will ever justify the expense of a native version anytime in the near future.

 

  the 'dd'

digital demon said:

And there is the non-justification for a Mac OS only version.

Mac did such a superb job with BootCamp I was able to get CorelDRAW in various versions on 3 different Macs using 3 different Windows versions up and running with virtually no problems whatsoever.

Yes, there's some big reasons. First of all, it's a Windows version and requires to use Windows under Mac, instead a Mac OS. The best advanradge is to use Mac OS instead Windows, so if you use Parallels, Bootcamp, VMware or other, you're using Windos, and it's the same to have a PC with Windows. So, there's no a solution, it's only a workaround, but with this solution Corel doesn't have Mac users. And for this reason, Corel still doesn't exist in the Mac marketplace. 

Use the Mac OS means to use the same printing drivers, copy/paste between Mac programs, and use the Mac OS fonts. With this bad solution, you need o have a driver for Windows (XP, Seven..) for each driver of Mac, and each font of Mac for Windows. More difficult, more problems, more job, and any advantadge for a Mac user. 

We're talking about a real traslation of CorelDRAW to Mac OS, not to use "the Google translator" (sometimes works, sometimes not...)

Hi.

Here's a few reasons why Corel might Not want to have a Mac version of CGS.

1) At the speed of computers now a days running a VM is no problem and system performance flies in one. Basically it is like running the app itself.

2) Mac is edging toward being able to run windows apps anyways. Imagine putting the effort to develop the version in vain when the next Mac OS comes out boasting the ability to run any program regardless.

3) The cost of developing a Mac version. Is it even possible? You've seen all of the bugs in X5. X5 was attacked, still is, regarding stability in Windows. Imagine trying to perfect it in another OS as well.

4) Many Mac users have no problem running an isolated VM to run Windows programs. This in itself makes the Mac market even smaller.

-John

A Mac version would likely mean not using Windows libraries like .Net. Really it requires a totally different attitude to software development to make multi-platform apps. I think Draw has past the point of no return on these issues. Besides which there are big user benefits from Corel making use of more Microsoft technologies. Direct 2D being one.

Yani said:

I think Draw has past the point of no return on these issues

In my opinion it Apples business attitude that's past the point of no return.  Small $300,000 per year companies having to choose to either bite the bullet and upgrade $8,000 in software or buy 3 old MACS at $500 a piece to support software.

The Apple and Apple software provider business model of not supporting backward or forward OS compatibility is TOO EXPENSIVE to continue to support.   To have software that runs on 10.4 but not 10.5 or 10.6 is unreasonable.  These are not new operating systems but small patches.  I have a few companies that have this situation, 10.4 for this RIP, them 10.5 for this other software and of course 10.6 for CS5  all BS.

Almost an identical company across town running XP, Vista and Windows 7 with all the same software on every machine.  Watch the profits and the Apple share of graphics diminish over the next decade.

Preferring Macs myself but owning and working on both daily I'll say just a few things that some people forget when comparing the two.

When someone says that Macs 'just work' its because the OS is built by the exact same company that builds the hardware that the OS will run on. Therefore the OS knows exactly what it has to work with. Now it should be obvious that things would run smoother in that situation vs a PC in which the OS has no clue what processor, video card, sound card, etc it has to work with. This is why Macs have gotten the rep for being better than PCs. Personally I prefer it when my hardware and software are build with the other in mind. But that does not mean that I love Macs and hate PCs. Like I said, I work with both.

Again, on that note, I do have more problems with my PCs. Its the nature of the beast. PCs are built by multiple companies, using multiple components. It only makes sense that more trouble will occur in that environment. It's silly and basis to think otherwise. Yes Windows 7 is a great improvement over past versions. It certainly makes using the PCs a less stressful task. But honestly W7 has taken that step towards OS X which makes it easier to use. You hear all these things about Windows 7 being simpler and more user friendly. Well those decisions came from the success of Mac OS X. And I love that its happening. Apple does it their way and they won't budge. Microsoft on the other hand seems open to the fact that their competitor has clearly done something right and so they took what they saw and made their product better. The best of XP/Vista combined with the ease of use and simplified look of OS X makes Windows 7. Microsoft has admitted this, unofficially, through quotes of execs who slipped up and let it be known that Windows 7 was built with OS X strongly in mind. See below. And that's not a bad thing for anyone. No matter who you prefer you should want the best product possible. And to get that you have to take the best of both worlds.

Simon Aldous - Microsoft's PGM said:

The interesting thing is, [Windows 7] is basically the next version of Vista... One of the things that people say an awful lot about the Apple Mac is that the OS is fantastic, that it’s very graphical and easy to use. What we’ve tried to do with Windows 7 – whether it’s traditional format or in a touch format – is create a Mac look and feel in terms of graphics.

And for those who say Macs are over priced, their not. Price the materials to build what Apple builds and you realize that the 'Apple Tax' barely exists. It does exists, Apple has earned that. But its not as big of a mark up as most people think. Yes I could get a PC that does roughly the same thing as my Mac but I prefer quality products in terms of their build and look. Do that with your basic PC and you are looking at a price range right around that of a Mac. It's simple fact. You get what you pay for.

The thing people have to keep in mind is the type of work they will be doing on their computers. PCs are great for many things that Macs are not and vis versa. It's just a matter of bad judgement on a company's part if they choose to go with Macs in an industry where the software is typically not supportive of the OS. That cannot be used as a judgement against Apple. They have no control over what another company does with it's software so that a silly, and again basis, argument.