Hello, that's my first post. This forum seems to have a lot of experienced people, and I am really in need here. I work on Mutoh Falcon II in which I use Pantone solid Coated pallete (from X3). I made 2 printings with this pallete, and done it with two diffrent printer profiles. Now when I got 2 pallets on textile, I can easily look how will every color from pallete look like after job. So I can very precise make my projects, and the clients are used to my colors. Unfortunatly, during last 3 years, many things have changes, and also I am getting more and more new files, which X3 can't properly manage, open and import. Also it can't use full potential of my machine, so I decided to move on to X5. Now after moving I am shocked about how diffrently it treats all graphhic. It don't have same pallete of Pantone C. Every Pantone has slightly / significant diffrence in separative colors, so my old Pantone 185, or 485 now on my printer looks compleatly diffrent! This cannot be happening. I lost 50m of fabric becuase EuropeUnion flags were printet in diffrent blue color.... Now I tried to help myslef, but I have poor knowledge about colors profile. During my little investigation, I saw that there is a way to get my old pantone. I have imported my old pallete, which is in cpl file. I can open it via X5 pallete editor. Than I need to thick little box which says "Treat as separation colors" - than the name of for example Pantone 485C goes away, but it's place is took by CMYK parameters, which are correct with old CMYK parameters in Corel X3. But by doing this there are two problems. First and worst is that it would take me years to change by my hand all those pantone colors. Second, also very annoying is that after doing so - Corel X5 stops to find colors which I want when I type their name. It used to be that I was clicking on object, on it's color twice, than little window was poping, I clicked there (Colors/Models/Pallets) Pallets, and there was my normal Pantone(R) solid coated. Than I just type 4... and 485C was already shown. Than just Enter and done. Color set. Now after changing the pallet to separative colors, I am loosing "names" and getting just CMYK color name. To be precise, in Corel X3 it looks like this :
And this is in X5:
, so please tell me WHY!? :) Who made such great fail. I'd love to have my old colors in new version, because it is so much faster in opening and working on files. But color diffrences are not accaptable. And this is why I spent more than 700$, and now still I'm using old soft. Please help me out.
Maybe this will help You understand something more, pictures of settings in X3 and 5.
It handles PDF well, but I never tried feeding him with PDF consisting of more than one page at same time. I use PosterPrint and HPS RIP. Both are more simple than heavy-multi photoshop like applications. They're giving just simple ways of croping, scaling etc. I will report to my colegue and repet here what he got.
edit: also one more question, in X3 we've got option to proof colors, which I have bind'ed to "Ctrl+/", and by doing so, all graphics on screen were having less saturation - almost same like on fabric after print. It was good to show clients, that "this is color you gave us, but keep in mind you'll get this "Ctrl+/" and POW! he sees what he'll get. Now in X5, there's also such option, and I also have binded it, to preserve old habbits, but this option don't give any effect. I'm sure it can be set somewhere, but I'm afraid it will need some profile to change to. And from X3 I cannot take it, because I just don's see that option to "show" which profile you're (corel) use for on-screen conversion....
If soft proofing spot colors use normal view under th eview menu. Alos to get X5 to converet and display spot colors like X3 will require that you use RGB for spot color difinitions. Also the ICC profiles used in X3 are diffedrent than X5. Identifyin gthem can be an issue e-mail me at davidmilisock@graphictechnology.com
Brute-Fish said:After asking a true color professional,
Thanks for the plug but I think it's more like a true professional color student.