Hello, that's my first post. This forum seems to have a lot of experienced people, and I am really in need here. I work on Mutoh Falcon II in which I use Pantone solid Coated pallete (from X3). I made 2 printings with this pallete, and done it with two diffrent printer profiles. Now when I got 2 pallets on textile, I can easily look how will every color from pallete look like after job. So I can very precise make my projects, and the clients are used to my colors. Unfortunatly, during last 3 years, many things have changes, and also I am getting more and more new files, which X3 can't properly manage, open and import. Also it can't use full potential of my machine, so I decided to move on to X5. Now after moving I am shocked about how diffrently it treats all graphhic. It don't have same pallete of Pantone C. Every Pantone has slightly / significant diffrence in separative colors, so my old Pantone 185, or 485 now on my printer looks compleatly diffrent! This cannot be happening. I lost 50m of fabric becuase EuropeUnion flags were printet in diffrent blue color.... Now I tried to help myslef, but I have poor knowledge about colors profile. During my little investigation, I saw that there is a way to get my old pantone. I have imported my old pallete, which is in cpl file. I can open it via X5 pallete editor. Than I need to thick little box which says "Treat as separation colors" - than the name of for example Pantone 485C goes away, but it's place is took by CMYK parameters, which are correct with old CMYK parameters in Corel X3. But by doing this there are two problems. First and worst is that it would take me years to change by my hand all those pantone colors. Second, also very annoying is that after doing so - Corel X5 stops to find colors which I want when I type their name. It used to be that I was clicking on object, on it's color twice, than little window was poping, I clicked there (Colors/Models/Pallets) Pallets, and there was my normal Pantone(R) solid coated. Than I just type 4... and 485C was already shown. Than just Enter and done. Color set. Now after changing the pallet to separative colors, I am loosing "names" and getting just CMYK color name. To be precise, in Corel X3 it looks like this :
And this is in X5:
, so please tell me WHY!? :) Who made such great fail. I'd love to have my old colors in new version, because it is so much faster in opening and working on files. But color diffrences are not accaptable. And this is why I spent more than 700$, and now still I'm using old soft. Please help me out.
Maybe this will help You understand something more, pictures of settings in X3 and 5.
Thank You for those wise advices, indeed they helped us out. Now there is another problem regarding colors. No matter what option I will thick during export to TiF file, (which sometimes is faster and more efficent than EPS) in PosterPrint the imported TIF is always in black and white.... I can check options as I like, CMYK, RGB, include profile or not include. Nothing helps. All bitmaps generated in TIF in X5 are always BW. If I would take it into PSCS2, and than just save'as again to same tif, in poster print it will have colors as needed. Also sometimes when importing bitmaps into corel, little window popsup, with info that there is not profile included, and how should it proceed. Now in PS, there is great option which would sound like "DO NOTHING", where in X5 there is only "DO SOMETHING - that is, include such profile, or diffrent, but not to "leave as it is" " Look pictures.
X5 - CDR to TIF export window
Photoshop CS2
COREL x5:
Please forgive my questions, but going from one software to another can be sometimes more difficult that it seems, apparently... :)
Also I switched to ENG version, so it all be more understandable for you to help us (we worked in ENG only in X3, so no problemo. Here is our general color settings, I think BW problem has something to do with the right side of this little window :
HPS said:
HPS said: Also sometimes when importing bitmaps into corel, little window popsup, with info that there is not profile included, and how should it proceed. Now in PS, there is great option which would sound like "DO NOTHING", where in X5 there is only "DO SOMETHING - that is, include such profile, or diffrent, but not to "leave as it is"
The right side explain all the warnings you see. Just disable all warnings
Ok what version of Poster Chop?
I use I use Production House. Maintain Aspect Ration seems turned off as anti aliasing.
CS2 is doing it wrong you cannot open or viewe\ a file without using some color profile of some type. Adobe just lies to you and diplays it in some profile.
Maybe, but in the end, CS2 makes Tiffs in color, where X5 does them in BW. Any help with that, please?